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#1 Tegiwa Imports

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 11:30 AM

Hi all.

 

GAUGING INTEREST THREAD

 

As you may or may not know we are MFactory Europe, the main distributer of all MFactory parts.

Previously this has been of little interest to you lot; however we have an opportunity now to get some parts put into production.

 

MFactory have said if we have 30+ people who would be willing to order uprated gear sets for the Glanza/GT-Turbo they would be very interested in putting these into production.

The only thing that has been discussed at the moment is gear sets, however if there is enough interest in final drives, synchro's or master rebuild kits I'm sure the same would apply.

 

Costs at the moment are unknown as no R&D has been done by MFactory, however I would expect them to be competitively priced against the likes of Cusco and other MFactory products for similar models.

 

Here is a link to our website just to wet your whistle a little and show you the vast ranges that we already sell with confidence.

http://www.mfactoryeurope.com/

 

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 11:36 AM

The real issue with our boxes is 3rd gear.

 

Its what everyone shits. I must have rounded about 5x 3rd gears before I gave up.

 

Pricing structure is what we all are going to need though.

 

Quaife offer something, but they dont rate them to any power or torque levels and if I was dropping big money like what there asking, Id want to feel comfortable in my investment!

 

As for adjusting ratios, there pretty good as it is, and good factory options are available.

 

Thats my 2cents anyways!



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Posted 06 January 2017 - 11:41 AM

The real issue with our boxes is 3rd gear.

 

Its what everyone shits. I must have rounded about 5x 3rd gears before I gave up.

 

Pricing structure is what we all are going to need though.

 

Quaife offer something, but they dont rate them to any power or torque levels and if I was dropping big money like what there asking, Id want to feel comfortable in my investment!

 

As for adjusting ratios, there pretty good as it is, and good factory options are available.

 

Thats my 2cents anyways!

 

Thanks for the input.

As I have said pricing is a little up in the air at the moment.

 

As soon as I know anything I will let you guys know first.



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Posted 06 January 2017 - 11:47 AM

Ill be following this, again im with socks 3rd gear is gash.

 

I have a spare gearbox in the yard. never fitted so don't know the condition, was told its in good usable condition.

 

 if you need it let me know I can drive it down to you.


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#5 crispyeel

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 11:55 AM

Hi James. I would be interested in a complete gearset for my EP91 :)

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 12:00 PM

Complete gearset yes. So long as a Motorsport set of ratios where availible - stock no use for racing

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 01:12 PM

Defiantly interested and no a couple others that will be aswell
Gears and synchros are the downfall so if it's well priced this should do well

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 02:26 PM

There is a definite requirement for a stronger gearbox, I'm not sure it stretches to 30+ people? Certainly not on this forum.

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 02:38 PM

Then spread the word :)

This really needs to happen!

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 03:58 PM

Im also interested.



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Posted 06 January 2017 - 09:19 PM

Are people aware we are probably talking roughly 2k for an unassembled kit here?

Which isn't much different to a quaife kit in terms of price

And h drive already make a kit that would fit in a Yaris box that would fit on a starlet. But again couple of k for parts alone

No chance we are getting 30 folk to spend 2k on a gearset.

Cusco also have an updated gearset roughly. 1500 in parts anyone 'could' order in in theory - but who has

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Edited by Phil, 06 January 2017 - 09:23 PM.


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Posted 06 January 2017 - 09:26 PM

Is it possible to just replace 2nd and 3rd or 3rd and 4th as they seem to offer this option for the Honda and Ford boxes?

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 09:34 PM

Yes you could swap to a celica/t sport corrolla 6speed box and then there is three or Four Companies that offered direct fit uprated 3rd/4th gears

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 11:35 PM

Nice one Phil.

I agree with the other comments, you kinda just want to upgrade the culprits. Synchros and 3rd

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 11:26 AM

Seems interesting but would need more info on the product, i.e. cost, durability, maintenance and warranty. Depending on price I think I would be willing to spend up to 1.2k on something decent if anything comes out of this.


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Posted 09 January 2017 - 11:27 AM

Are people aware we are probably talking roughly 2k for an unassembled kit here?

Which isn't much different to a quaife kit in terms of price

And h drive already make a kit that would fit in a Yaris box that would fit on a starlet. But again couple of k for parts alone

No chance we are getting 30 folk to spend 2k on a gearset.

Cusco also have an updated gearset roughly. 1500 in parts anyone 'could' order in in theory - but who has

Phil

 

Phil, do you have a link to that Cusco updated gearset??? :)



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Posted 09 January 2017 - 01:55 PM

 

Phil, do you have a link to that Cusco updated gearset??? :)

 

yes

 

http://www.cusco.co....n_gear_set.html

 

but its not ideal for your application or mine really.

 

this mfactory route is likely a good bet depending how it plays out.

 

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 03:14 PM

Great to see the interest that we have had so far.

Im going to let this stew a while longer before pestering MFactory any more.

The next step will be to look at what product options they will be able to put foward and the price point.

From there it will be deposits to secure orders.



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Posted 09 January 2017 - 05:29 PM

Be interesting to see what happens here. As far as I've seen there's no common tried and tested solution to the weak gbox/3rd gear problem yet

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 12:46 AM

i think you will have some very decent interest. but all will depend on the price. so best try work out some pricing first. :thumbsup: 


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 12:26 AM

Im interested! 


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Posted 23 January 2017 - 11:08 PM

I'm also interested 😎

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Posted 28 January 2017 - 01:09 PM

Would like to see what power figures it's capable of handling .would definitely be interested if the pricing doesn't make a whole through the ceiling.

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Posted 28 January 2017 - 07:04 PM

If M-Factory did a replacement synchro set, i think that'd be very much appreciated, as IIRC they are now discontinued by Toyota. The gearboxes are now all getting to the stage where we are seeing more and more synchros giving up the ghost.


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#25 Tegiwa Imports

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Posted 30 January 2017 - 04:53 PM

Im going to contct Mfactory over the next few days and see what i can find out for you all.

Could be quite interesting.



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Posted 01 February 2017 - 01:40 AM

id be very interested aswell but yea its all pricing really for anything 2k plus i think you will be looking at 10 names tops. 



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Posted 07 February 2017 - 10:39 AM

Im going to contct Mfactory over the next few days and see what i can find out for you all.

Could be quite interesting.

 

Any update on this?



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Posted 07 February 2017 - 12:18 PM

No update as yet, chinese new year has slowed everything down and left me a very busy man.

As soon as i know something you guys will know too!



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Posted 24 February 2017 - 03:38 PM

Hi, has there been any further developments to this yet?

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#30 Tegiwa Imports

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 02:09 PM

Nothing on this at the moment,

Let me send another email and see what going on with this.



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Posted 03 March 2017 - 09:41 AM

Hi All,

 

ROUGH PRICING

These prices are all guidelines and should only be taken as such

We would need 30 people interested in a single product before it could be put into production. (I'm sure this is understandable as there is a lot of research and development and tooling required for a new kit).

 

Carbon rebuild kit

£400-500

 

Bearing and seal kits.

£175-250

 

Carbon synchro set

£175-250

 

Gear hubs

£50

 

Sleeves

£125 each (1st/2nd, 3rd/4th, 5th/reverse)

 

close ratio gears 

£275-400 each

 

Close ratio gear kits

£750-850 (3rd/4th/5th)

 

Diff bearings 

£30-60

 

Final drives 

£750-850

 

I hope this helps.



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Posted 03 March 2017 - 09:44 AM

I think the syncros will be beneficial to everyone struggling with discontinued parts.

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 10:13 AM

All sounds as you would expect but really depends what your getting for your money.

What are the gears?
What will they hold?
No Dog engagement option?

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 10:26 AM

Are the gears straight cut?



#35 Tegiwa Imports

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 10:50 AM

Gears will not be straight cut.

These will take more power than many of the builds on this forum.



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Posted 03 March 2017 - 12:19 PM

Ok so there copies of the stock gears but stronger basically?



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Posted 03 March 2017 - 12:42 PM

WhAt would the carbon rebuild kit include ?

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 04:58 PM

I'd be interested in the Carbon Synchros. I know they do them for the EP3's.

 

I wouldn't bother with the final drives and close ratio box, you can get these from RHD Japan, £650for a TRD final drive

 

http://www.rhdjapan....ars-and-pinions

 

Definitely worth having a USP like the carbon synchros. I'm sure they'd sell well at that price.



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Posted 03 March 2017 - 05:05 PM

Its going to be carbon syncros and strengthened gear sets that we want.

 

In terms of ratios tho. Id say the ratios are good. just make 5th a bit longer....



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Posted 03 March 2017 - 05:25 PM

Id like a 5th gear with a long ratio. 4.5 - 5K RPM in 5th at motorway speeds in a 4paw is just a fuckin joke tbh.
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Posted 03 March 2017 - 05:27 PM

I would have a carbon kit just long as it was the gears and syncros b good to get a set before I send mine off to be mapped etc

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Posted 04 March 2017 - 08:26 AM

Id like a 5th gear with a long ratio. 4.5 - 5K RPM in 5th at motorway speeds in a 4paw is just a fuckin joke tbh.

 

Yeh epx5's gear ratios are absolutely useless, unless your using it round a council estate or a go kart track lol.



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Posted 04 March 2017 - 12:18 PM

Also interested in what is in the carbon rebuild kit?

Would definately be interested in a set of synchros too!

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Posted 04 March 2017 - 12:56 PM

Hi All,

 

ROUGH PRICING

These prices are all guidelines and should only be taken as such

We would need 30 people interested in a single product before it could be put into production. (I'm sure this is understandable as there is a lot of research and development and tooling required for a new kit).

 

Carbon rebuild kit

£400-500

 

Bearing and seal kits.

£175-250

 

Carbon synchro set

£175-250

 

Gear hubs

£50

 

Sleeves

£125 each (1st/2nd, 3rd/4th, 5th/reverse)

 

close ratio gears 

£275-400 each

 

Close ratio gear kits

£750-850 (3rd/4th/5th)

 

Diff bearings 

£30-60

 

Final drives 

£750-850

 

I hope this helps.

 

 

you should do a strait fit 5th gears setup that drops the rpm by 1000rpm in 5th  as the 3500rpm at motorway speeds empties my tank rather fast at an alarming rate 

 

there will be shit loads of guys interested in that for the road 



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Posted 04 March 2017 - 04:47 PM

Your just trading revs for load though Colin. Dropping the rev (changing ratio to drop the revs) doesn't mean your going to save fuel. You'll just put more load on the engine. When I put a 6speed box on mine it made a huge difference to fuel economy as it took the load off the engine.

Edited by lukEp, 04 March 2017 - 04:48 PM.

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