ramses Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 They won't touch them because they use to map them and never get anywhere near the results you would get with a proper ecu. Car will run much smoother with a decent stand alone along with several other benefits. If you want to run 3 times factory power in a starlet good ecu is a must. People spend good money on shiney manifolds and so on and put in crap like a e manage . Good ecu is the foundation of any good build. If you look even at any of the japenese tuners they don't even run japenese ecus anymore. It's all link, haltech and similar ecus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Foggy Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Not agree again...we have 2 starlets td04 at 1.2b, here , and one is with KMS ECU and other with the "crappy" emu , both do the same power with the same set up... The only reason for standalone is that on some ECu with some other cars , the greddy cannot drive some informations correctly and it can be a pain : For example , with my FE3N turboed mazda ,the EMU cannot use the ignition map correctly and you must go to Standalone , in my case i am totaly agree with you to use standalone Ecu , but for the Starlet 4efte ecu with EMU , they work very well together ... In another forum it will be another thread like "ref-flashing Vs Standalone Ecus " You can also run 1.2bar on a td04 with premapped ecus like jam and so on. Just because it makes the same power means nothing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ramses Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 You can also run 1.2bar on a td04 with premapped ecus like jam and so on. Just because it makes the same power means nothing. No it means something else , because these are starlet 4efe NA turboed , and they run everyday at their high compression ... I am sometimes with my friend who has a store , it tunes with Blitz/reflashed ecu and EMU and for him meanwhile he sells standalone , some piggypack like the emu is a good solution for some cars ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gorganl2000 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 i don't want to derail this tread, which is about td05 16g set up possibilities,... so is it possible that we could start another tread about "emanage vs standalones"....i would be very willing to share my thoughts there...as i like the discussion between foggy, ramses, gainzy or could a moderator cut their replies and create such a tread? ---if those parties are willing to have their responses removed from this tread of course!! or someone start such a tread Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ramses Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 i don't want to derail this tread, which is about td05 16g set up possibilities,... so is it possible that we could start another tread about "emanage vs standalones"....i would be very willing to share my thoughts there...as i like the discussion between foggy, ramses, gainzy or could a moderator cut their replies and create such a tread? ---if those parties are willing to have their responses removed from this tread of course!! or someone start such a tread good idea Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goldenvtr Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Im sticking a td05 16g on a 5e, planning to run an emu. Anyone had experience with that setup? yea i did that about 7 years ago lol >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq68dgo_I7c&t=81s Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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