ste91 Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 If you could take back the time and money would you have just gone and bought a GT/Glanza or would you have still done the conversion? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Idrees Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 My brother said he should/would have just bought a Glanza. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve GT Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 I've never done it i just went out and bought a gt i would have though its more beneficial and deffo a lot easier lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StarletRick Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 unless you are seriously in love with your NA, just buy a glanza. the only NA i can think of that is worth keeping is phil's to be honest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ste91 Posted August 17, 2009 Author Share Posted August 17, 2009 Well it's either wait and save up and buy a GT or slowly build up the parts for the conversion and then drop the engine in.I'd love a Glanza but for cheapness I'd rather buy a GT. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StarletRick Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 Glanza's are nicer cars to be honest. I've owned basically every incarnation of starlet, and the V is easily the nicest. they are cheap as chips now too, just get a decent glanza and be done with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Idrees Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 Drive both before you make your mind up. Personal preferance in my opinion. I enjoyed the GT to drive more than a Glanza. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve GT Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 I'd love a Glanza but for cheapness I'd rather buy a GT.Glanza's are nicer cars to be honest. I've owned basically every incarnation of starlet, and the V is easily the nicest. they are cheap as chips now too, just get a decent glanza and be done with it.You both smell of poo GT's for the win haha glanzas are nice but id deffo prefer the gt anyday of the week lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ollie1.3i Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 I prefer to get a conversion , as i dont like the gt's or glanza to be honest in my opinion i love the look of a sleeper , just pullin up at a set of lights next to someone who thinks you have shite engine and then pullin off like fuck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nanglebadger Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 @Rick, thanks dude.@Ste - as said, it kinda depends how much u love your NA and how far you have come with it. If u have a genuine attachment to the car and would cringe at the idea of sellin her, then thats your answer. I personally have come to far with this project to just pass it on for a factory turbo, the parts i would loose selling her for a stock or lightly modded V wouldn't bear thinking about...TTE, HRF, TRD, hence why I have gone conversion (although i still want an S15 lol).however, if like a lot of power car guys, its JUST a car and you're not really that bothered about the individual car but more concerned with the grunt, then selling and buyin a factory turbo is the way for you.also, bear in mind that as a young male, insurance on a conversion will MOST LIKELY be alot more expensive than insuring a factory turbo, hence why SiCaln sold the SR before his conversion and bought his V.do some insurance quotes man, might give you an idea of the best approach for you. if u get a silly nice quote for a V or a GT then that may tempt you away from a conversion. plus, it kinda helps to have someone who REALLY knows what they're doing when it comes to the actual process of conversion, thats why I consider myself VERY fortunate to have Jay and WeeJohn helping me big time!Phil. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mikey Jay Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 As said, you're better off financially going for a GT or Glanza in terms of cost and insurance.Depends how much you love your car.Can understand people turbo'ing Paseos and Seras rathet than getting a GT or Glanza, but they're different styles of car, where as UK spec and JDM spec Starlets are all similar in appearance (to a degree, in that they're hatchbacks) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ollie1.3i Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 My EP80 conversion was worth every penny, second and skinned knuckle. It also taught me a lot more than I expected too which was priceless.I agree so much, i have learnt so much more working on my car etc and buillding the parts up and installin em my self , and all tht hard work on it just pays off because you can say i did tht , in my opinion it feel like a big sense of acheivement when you do the conversion and see tht FMIC steering at you through the bumper of a sportif =P Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobSR Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 I'm doing it the now and don't regret it to be honest. The sr wasn't in the best of condition so I couldn't of afford to sell it and buy a GT/Glanza which is another reason why I did it, aswell as giving myself a challenge... It's more rewarding doing the work and getting it running than just buying a turbo model..If you decide to buy a turbo one have a go in both first. Personally I prefer GT's even though I have a '91 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve GT Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 ^^^ woo hoo good lad i love gt'sand the one thing i can say is if you do a 4efte conversion you will learn so much about the engines, where everything is and what parts go where. i havnt done a conversion but i replaced the engine on my gt and i learned so much its unbelievable so there are benefits to doing it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ollie1.3i Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 I agree so much untill you do the conversion etc you wont understand how much knowledge and enjoyment you get out of doing the conversion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobSR Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 I agree so much untill you do the conversion etc you wont understand how much knowledge and enjoyment you get out of doing the conversion.x2! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 Man I wish I could of finished my FTE conversion in the Carbon Clad Carribean Glanza replica Oh well I my GT and will finish the above project one day Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dean @RW-Developments Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 the conversion is definatly alot of fun and well worth it in my eyes, for the money ive spent i could of easily went and bought a glanza but why not build 1 thats unique. plus its so much more fun! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve GT Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 agreed with all of youplus theres the whole sleeper principal someone who knows jap cars pulls up in there 1.4 civic n/a slightly modified and thinks haha theres a 1.3 sr il kick there arse......NOT A CHANCE SON haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Russleh Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 i prefer the conversion because I've ended up with a starlet cd and basically a 190 bhp glanza for 4k. not a bad deal having the sleeper was great fun while it lasted though. i done the conversion mainly because im tired of goin to garages and wanted to learn to do stuff myself so thought id start with changin an engine haha Russell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ollie1.3i Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 agreed with all of youplus theres the whole sleeper principal someone who knows jap cars pulls up in there 1.4 civic n/a slightly modified and thinks haha theres a 1.3 sr il kick there arse......NOT A CHANCE SON hahaI agree so long mr civic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Glanza-Love Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I agree so much untill you do the conversion etc you wont understand how much knowledge and enjoyment you get out of doing the conversion.Totaly disagree... i have knowledge about these cars.. killing my head.. stripping the car.. rebuilding the car.. theres an extent you "enjoy" working on.. ie changing exhaust.. mani.. so on..there comes a part when you stop enjoying and start to get sick of having to pop the bonnet doing this that...when your doing the conversion.. you need to do ALOT of work. rear axle needs changed to discs... engine needs dropped out & new one in.. then remembering ALL the piping and routing, old loom out.. gt/glanza loom in.. wirings a complete nightmare if you dont have a clue.. running gear needs uprated as a hole realy. youve got to have the tools and you defo need to have the know how or your straight up a gum tree... spending all that money to do that.if i were you id buy a cheap gt or glanza... if your sooo "loved up" in the sleeper look.. buy the NA bumpers & bonnet and put them on your glanza.. hella cheaper than faffing about with an N/A... funny thing is you could sell the glanza front bumper and manage to buy all the n/a stuff..Conversions are a money hole.. if you get an engine make sure you see/hear it run.. or your gona need deep pockets these engines are not cheap to repair from toyota...heres a quick detail of random things..Glanza headlight units only - £1501 cv joint kit - £250alternator - £220oil return pipe £90 .. its just a fecking pipe!im not trying to put people of conversions... i just want to make people aware of the work and things that have to be done... thinking and dreaming of things like this always sounds the most awsome,easy,straight forward thing to do.sorry to burst that bubble its not.Also Russel mate. you could have bought a glanza with 200bhp spec for £3500... i was thinking on selling mines about this..starlet gts.. on td04 kits sell for this too.R. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobSR Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 when your doing the conversion.. you need to do ALOT of work. rear axle needs changed to discs... engine needs dropped out & new one in.. then remembering ALL the piping and routing, old loom out.. gt/glanza loom in.. wirings a complete nightmare if you dont have a clue.. running gear needs uprated as a hole realy. youve got to have the tools and you defo need to have the know how or your straight up a gum tree... spending all that money to do that.in my opinion it's not as hard as people make out, and you'll realise once you've done it, yes your going to run into problems, but nothing that you can't sort out. The rear braking setup doesn't have to be changed, it's adviseable, but the rear only does about 20% of the braking so it's not totally necessary. Dropping an engine in and out is no different wheter it's a tub or not, and you only really have to unplug the loom, and then re plug it in whch isn't hard as it only goes in one way..same with interior wiring, when you have the Glanza looms it's a straiight plug and play swap. You hardly need any tools they're that easy to work on. Literally a rachet a range of sockects and spanners is all you need ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Russleh Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 @ glanza-love yeh but i wouldnt have the other car that i plan to use for work. i still think 2 cars with about 70k is a good deal for 4 k. will go down a bit when i sell off bits i dont want lol. i did kinda go a roundabout way of havin a glanza though also toyotas prices are a bit crazy. got a na backbox for like 50 quid new and then they said 60 for just a cv rubber . Russell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ollie1.3i Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Totaly disagree... i have knowledge about these cars.. killing my head.. stripping the car.. rebuilding the car.. theres an extent you "enjoy" working on.. ie changing exhaust.. mani.. so on..there comes a part when you stop enjoying and start to get sick of having to pop the bonnet doing this that...when your doing the conversion.. you need to do ALOT of work. rear axle needs changed to discs... engine needs dropped out & new one in.. then remembering ALL the piping and routing, old loom out.. gt/glanza loom in.. wirings a complete nightmare if you dont have a clue.. running gear needs uprated as a hole realy. youve got to have the tools and you defo need to have the know how or your straight up a gum tree... spending all that money to do that.if i were you id buy a cheap gt or glanza... if your sooo "loved up" in the sleeper look.. buy the NA bumpers & bonnet and put them on your glanza.. hella cheaper than faffing about with an N/A... funny thing is you could sell the glanza front bumper and manage to buy all the n/a stuff..Conversions are a money hole.. if you get an engine make sure you see/hear it run.. or your gona need deep pockets these engines are not cheap to repair from toyota...heres a quick detail of random things..Glanza headlight units only - £1501 cv joint kit - £250alternator - £220oil return pipe £90 .. its just a fecking pipe!im not trying to put people of conversions... i just want to make people aware of the work and things that have to be done... thinking and dreaming of things like this always sounds the most awsome,easy,straight forward thing to do.sorry to burst that bubble its not.Also Russel mate. you could have bought a glanza with 200bhp spec for £3500... i was thinking on selling mines about this..starlet gts.. on td04 kits sell for this too.R.i disagree with you as its not tht hard , im not a mechanic or didnt have hardly any knowledge of the starlet when i started ,also as for the wiring im a sparky so does help but still im not an auto sparky so stuff is different, and tool wise a few sockets of different sizes , spanners and a hammer and bobs ya uncle , and to be honest i dont care how much i spend on it as im not doing it for the money im doing it for my own enjoyment and plus i think n/a's have a nice look to them cpompared to a glanza , No offence to the glanza owners. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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