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Posted 01 October 2009 - 10:42 AM

you guys might have seen the vid in the news blog of the Jam GLanza vs Boss evo. its in the side bar of the blog.

ive been watching it a bit recently and im amazed at this car. its cracked a 1.02 around Tsukuba
now i have a cusin that stays in osaka. and he has agreed to decipher the text, and dialect.

he sent me this email of the spec from in the video here

Jam Glanza Tested by Keiichi Tsuchiya

JAM RACING STARLET
Engine ______1500 complete
Highcam ____Jam
Turbine______Normal CT9( High-flow )
Intercooler __Jam front-mount kit
Mission______Normal
Clutch ______AP twin
LSD ________TRD 15WAY
Final 4.3
Damper___TRD
Spring_____TRD Front: 14kg Rear: 12kg
Brake_____Front: WILWOOD 4POT
Pad Front: WILWOOD Rear: JamRC
WILWOOD Brake balancer
Tyre______YH A048
 
F225/ 45R16 R215 / 50R16
Car Weight______848kg
   
Horse power______250


now with that same power and setup it did a 1.02.886 seconds around Japans Tsukuba circuit.


food for thought here are some times of stock cars for comparision. it would put it next to this little lot


Nismo Skyline GT-R Z Tune 1 min 01.150 secs
Ferrari 360 Challenge Stra' 1 min 02.440 secs
Jam Glanza 5e hybrid ct9 1 min 0.2.886 secs Posted Image
Lamborghini Gallardo 1 min 03.605 secs
Honda NSX-R 1 min 03.920 secs
McLaren F1 1 min 04.620 secs
Porsche 997 Turbo 1 min 04.730 secs
Murcielago 1 min 04.760 secs
Z-Tune 1 min 05.100 secs*(diff day diff driver)
EVO IX RS 1 min 05.528 secs
997 Carrera 4 1 min 05.980 secs
Corvette Z06 1 min 06.020 secs
Lancer Evo IX 1 min 06.060 secs
NA1 NSX-R 1 min 06.198 secs
Nismo GT-R S Tune 1 min 06.232 secs (340 bhp)
Ferrari F40 1 min 06.460 secs
WRX STI SPEC-C 1 min 06.651 secs ( Current STI)
NA1 NSX-R 1 min 06.80 secs (same race as F40)
BMW M5 1 min 06.560 secs
STI S204 1 min 06.800 secs
BMW M6 1 min 07.434 secs
350Z S Version 1 min 08.110 secs
BMW M3 1 min 08.200 secs
Audi RS4 1 min 08.368 secs
Supra Euro Version 330 bhp 1 min 08.460 secs
Mazda RX-7 1 min 08.70 secs
RX-8 A Spec 1 min 09.430 secs
Nissan 300ZX 1 min 10.70 secs

clicks of when it did that time are here.

click of Jam glanza at time attack





ive watched that vid loads of times and looked at the revcounter, and it looks like an amazing low lag track setup.
in that tune hes getting 250brake from a high flow ct9 + 5e combo but the delivery of power looks so smooth

does anyone know of the engine specifics of whats actualy in a jam engine. or more interestingly the specs of the cams they put in this 5e.
or more importantly the spec of the hi flow turbo? it uses a jam actuater??

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 10:56 AM

I've got a few specs of it.. I'll put em up when I get home later.. It does run a jam actuator :thumbsup:

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 11:17 AM

that

is



sick!

i never would ave thought it was running a ct9 !!

anybody an idea how much boost it was running on? as known a ct9 runs out of air above 1 bar..

highflow ct9? other word for hybrid?

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 11:23 AM

I'm interested to know what sort of management it uses, I'm guessing a JAM ECU but mapped to that setup?

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 11:24 AM

^ from what I've seen that is indeed correct :thumbsup:

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 11:30 AM

shame they didnt race (evo vs JAM) sounds like the jam glanza had troubles with the brake cylinder master?? and from the look of the brake pedel he almost had no brakes lol!

either way that jam glanza is pretty mental, i'm sure the hybrid turbo has been worked almost to the max of the ct9 housing. so quite a big comp blade and perhaps a 360 trust bearing?

i'm sure you know marks glanza (www.glanza.co.uk) well he sold it onto my mate, and that seems to have quite alot of jam items and hks so can only imagine that the person who built the car in japan had influence from the jam beast. he has some high lift hks cams running is his but i'm sure jam would have put in some high lift variations of there own so the turbo doesnt spool so silly hard and die out perhaps shifting the delivery to around 4k full boost?

also the ecu my friends car is running is a custom mapped original ecu... so the stock 4efte has been chipped in japan (possible by jam) so again i'm sure jam had there own ecu in but mapped alot more aggressively then any other 'stock' jam ecu.

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 11:54 AM

Mad Car. Mad Spec.

Though if its a 5e, isn't it a 1497cc?

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 11:58 AM

DAMNNN that time is quick! :thumbsup:

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 01:38 PM

Very impressive car!! 250hp on a ct9 :thumbsup:

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 02:11 PM

Well hybrid lol, but I'd bet that's on special juice aswell..

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 05:16 PM

Hmm seems like it's gone few a few phases.. I have the specs when it was a 4e. Basically the same as above bar the engine..., but it was a ct9 @ 1.0 bar and it was 190 PS...

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 05:23 PM

yea i have starlet bible at home but its all in squigly writing.

highflow ct9? other word for hybrid?



i hi flow turbo is differnt to a hybrid in that only the waistgate gets board and compressor wheel modified to flow more air.
thats a hi flow turbo

a hybrid in the true sense of the word is when you start using different compreessor - turbine,shaft wheel combinations.

im thinking is this figure is possible on a hi flow turbo(like the gt spec) i wander what a td12 would be like on a 5e like that!

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 05:30 PM

Thats some starlet, one can but dream.

One way to find out Geo, do it :thumbsup:

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 06:15 PM

yea i have starlet bible at home but its all in squigly writing.




i hi flow turbo is differnt to a hybrid in that only the waistgate gets board and compressor wheel modified to flow more air.
thats a hi flow turbo

a hybrid in the true sense of the word is when you start using different compreessor - turbine,shaft wheel combinations.

im thinking is this figure is possible on a hi flow turbo(like the gt spec) i wander what a td12 would be like on a 5e like that!



thanks for clearing that up, keep learning things every day :thumbsup:

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 11:41 AM

Rob is right about the Jam Glanza going through different phases. Also when it had the 4E in it, it recorded a 1'04".865 round Tsukuba. Still awesome. It's definitely my favourite Starlet ever made, does anyone know what has happened to it? Do Jam still own it or sold it on?

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Posted 07 October 2009 - 12:51 PM

In my bordem today and interest in Jam cars I did some trawling of the archived files from the Jam site and came accross a whole host of stuff I never knew about them..... unfortunatly there site becomes unaccessable after Oct 04 due to a formatting issue i think, which is when pics of the 5e Glanza start appearing....there is a whole host of stuff hidden in the past of there website from magazine articles to them working on customers cars passed a good few hours it did....if i get chance ill bang it all together in a post.....but for now i did manage to pull this off though when it was 4e spec straight from the jam site when it was actually for sale

JAM RACING WORKSCARS
FOR SALE!!

For next term opening departure 輌 purchase, it cries, it cries, you release.

2,700,000 Yen in price

EP91 turbo
At 1999 Tsukuba circuit marking 1 minute 4 seconds 867

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Engine itself

4E−FTE base
Forging piston original lightweight [baruburihuta] piston and connecting rod balance taking
Deviation prevention process blow-by gas prevention processing inside oil pan
Turbine air cooled conversion processing
Trust 10 step oil cooler kit
JAM original preface [intakurakitsuto]
Blow off valve less
NGK plug cord
NGK racing 8th plug
The control with JAM original CPU

Turbine

Genuine reforming high flow
Strengthening actuator
[torasutopurohuetsuku] B specifications installation

Exhaust type

JAM original catalyst extension
JAM original TYPE2 muffler

Drive system

Mission itself normal
Only final 4.058
AP racing twin plate clutch
TRD mechanical cable type 1.5WAY LSD

Brake

Front carry per Will Wood 4POT carry per
4POT private brake pad
Rear JAM original type RC brake pad
AP racing adjustment type proportioning valve
APP stain mesh brake line

Suspension bushes

Front
The Cuzco camber adjustment type pyro upper mount
Height pitch for TRD race/lace
Series-wound coming spring 14K for TRD race/lace
Rear
TRD strengthening upper mount
Height pitch for TRD race/lace
Series-wound coming spring 12K for TRD race/lace

TRD suspension bush
TRD strengthening engine mount
JAM original pyro lateral rod

Interior

[buritsudojigu] you [hurubatsuketoshito]
3 inch [uiranzu] 4Ã?4 seat belts
[kusukokuromoriroruba] 7 point system
Trust 60φ boost gage oil temperature gauge

Crazy shit....it advertised on there site for a good year or so but im unsure if its actually this car that they 5e'd

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Posted 07 October 2009 - 01:02 PM

Thats a sick spec, JAM muffle never knew they did an exhaust system

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Posted 07 October 2009 - 01:03 PM

Also some info on their engine specs when buying one, im guessing there own cars ran similar specs

○ complete engine
[huruhuro] processed forging piston
Piston and connecting rod weight adjusting
Original lightweight [baruburihuta]
Oil deviation prevention processing inside [oirupan]
Turbine air cooled conversion processed thermo- housing

○ price (normal trade-in)
EP91: 280,000 Yen
EP82: 350,000 Yen

○ high cam specification price (normal trade-in)
EP91: 360,000 Yen
EP82: 430,000 Yen


Engine itself EP82
EP91 350.000 Circle
280.000 Circle
Engine removal and re-installation payment 50.000 Circle
Supplemental devices removal and re-installation payments 30.000 Circle
Motor oil BP20W-60 12.000 Circle
Plug NGK racing 9.600 Circle
Coolant Third SCC 2.000 Circle
Oil element 1.000 Circle

When it cannot take in trade the engine, 80.000 Circle

High cam KIT IN EX250°-8.5o lift 80.000 Circle 15.000 Circle
TRD strengthening engine mount set 25.500 Circle
Catalyst extension 38.000 Circle
[buritsutsu] K1-200V turbine 168.000 Circle
Strengthening fuel pump 22.300 Circle
Adjustment type [huyu] - l regulator KIT 22.000 Circle
76.5℃ low temperature thermostat 2.000 Circle
Original computer As for normal trade-in 125.000 Circle

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Posted 07 October 2009 - 02:33 PM

ah it mentions k1-200v turbine... so the high flow ct9 must be running one of blitz's turbine wheels making it it's hybrid variation or it's just running a blitz k1 which would make more sence :lol:

some crazy shiz those japs and some of the parts going in to those engines are mint! wish i had such a spec'd glanza <_<


edit: Also done some digging and according to the Aus site Toby (toytuning) ran a blitz k1 and made '202@ wheels with the pfc f-con, all at 1.3 bar'

so with a bit of a push and the 5e, high lift cams etc 250bhp i think is toatly achievable :blink:

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Posted 08 October 2009 - 12:31 AM

it ran a blitz k1-200v with jam actuater, its the same turbo that david is selling in the for sale section

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Posted 04 January 2010 - 07:04 PM

ive found a 5e block and im trying to replicate the jam engine but with the use of a td12, it would be mint to know the lift and duration on the 250ps 5e.

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Posted 04 January 2010 - 07:51 PM

thats an awesome idea man, td12 5e would be sweet :angry2:

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Posted 04 January 2010 - 07:59 PM

This is fewkin amazing!! i remember watching this vid aaages ago thanks for ressurecting it! its one of them vids where you watch and think I WANT THAT!!! this guy and his brother i think do a series where they boot loads of tuned car down windy jap roads...ne one kno what its called?!

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Posted 04 January 2010 - 10:40 PM

ive found a 5e block and im trying to replicate the jam engine but with the use of a td12, it would be mint to know the lift and duration on the 250ps 5e.


I know nothing about cams but does this mean anything

High cam KIT IN EX250°-8.5o lift

from the above spec when JAM built customers engines?

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Posted 04 January 2010 - 10:46 PM

yea those are some specs, but those cam specs are pretty mild

with 250 duration and 8.5 mil lift, speedvison is 260 iirc with 8mil lift

id imagine the 250ps glanza had some where between 272 -282 with 8.5 plus lift on inlet and outlet but cant find the magical specs anywere

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Posted 04 January 2010 - 10:51 PM

ive found a 5e block and im trying to replicate the jam engine but with the use of a td12, it would be mint to know the lift and duration on the 250ps 5e.


Seeing as you're using the TD12, would it not be better to use some cams that are more suited to the TD12 rather than the ones that JAM use?

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Posted 04 January 2010 - 10:59 PM

the td12 pushes roughly the same amoont of air as a k1 - 200 possebly more.

im only looking for the jam specs to replicate it as im going 5e and higher compression also.

i want to get close to that 250ps figure even if it means using 102 ron lol and those cam specs will give me a solid guide to that power goal

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Posted 04 January 2010 - 11:09 PM

Some more stuff but again looks 4e based to me, might be of some use though

http://translate.goo...xh98rlDbuL5UqEQ

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Posted 04 January 2010 - 11:14 PM

it looks like those specs are for regrinds, this would explain the mild duration,

and not chilcast blanks,, thanx anyway for looking tho mate :angry2:

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 02:30 AM

if its any good to you when i rebuild my K1 turbocharger i found alot of it was off the shielf toyota bits. Basically its a TD12 shaft and turbine wheel with custom blitz compressor wheel and housing. The blitz compressor wheel was bigger than the stock td12 one so i'd say the K1 would produce more power. The Compressor seems more evolved than the td12 as well.

Can't wait to get mine fitted and see what all the hype is about. I did something a little special as well and converted it from a normal oil journal bearing to a dual ball bearing setup :( Responce here we come lol

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 02:43 AM

me and gary_ep91 are on same builds the now trying to crack 250bhp @ the fly on a ct9 based hybrid
and ive specked two custom td12s that use a bigger compressor housing to get this build to the right power level on a 5e.

only two turbos are being built to this spec. il post up pictures soon :(

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 05:10 PM

Thats quite something!

We should have a thread to build the best Ep in every way. If someone becomes rich, they have to build it. :(

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Posted 09 April 2010 - 10:07 AM

How is this build going Enzo? I would love to see something similar or replicating the Jam Glanza.

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 06:57 PM

Also some info on their engine specs when buying one, im guessing there own cars ran similar specs

○ complete engine
[huruhuro] processed forging piston
Piston and connecting rod weight adjusting
Original lightweight [baruburihuta]
Oil deviation prevention processing inside [oirupan]
Turbine air cooled conversion processed thermo- housing

○ price (normal trade-in)
EP91: 280,000 Yen
EP82: 350,000 Yen

○ high cam specification price (normal trade-in)
EP91: 360,000 Yen
EP82: 430,000 Yen


Engine itself EP82
EP91 350.000 Circle
280.000 Circle
Engine removal and re-installation payment 50.000 Circle
Supplemental devices removal and re-installation payments 30.000 Circle
Motor oil BP20W-60 12.000 Circle
Plug NGK racing 9.600 Circle
Coolant Third SCC 2.000 Circle
Oil element 1.000 Circle

When it cannot take in trade the engine, 80.000 Circle

High cam KIT IN EX250°-8.5o lift 80.000 Circle 15.000 Circle
TRD strengthening engine mount set 25.500 Circle
Catalyst extension 38.000 Circle
[buritsutsu] K1-200V turbine 168.000 Circle
Strengthening fuel pump 22.300 Circle
Adjustment type [huyu] - l regulator KIT 22.000 Circle
76.5℃ low temperature thermostat 2.000 Circle
Original computer As for normal trade-in 125.000 Circle



Reading through this post has got me thinking, i brought my car from yahoo auctions it has loads of jam parts and was advertised as having a complete jam engine, when i got it and removed the sump i found standard rods and thought, i've been done but now i've read this it doesn't actually say forged rods, so i could actually have a jam engine. I deffo have the thermo housing they are on about above as i couldn't work out why i had no water lines to the turbo and the thermo housing looks properly modified i have the modified sump they are also on about and cams, I did have the jam ecu, manifold, decat and blitz k1 but i sold them to fund other parts. Anyone know what boost the engines they built would take ?

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Posted 05 December 2010 - 02:08 AM

bit of an old post but you got some pictures of this modified sump and thermostat housing your talking about so i can see what they've tried to accomplish?

thanks

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Posted 29 December 2010 - 10:45 PM

JAM Glanza :lol:

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 06:53 PM

That complete glanza is £20k! ouch.

surely one could be built for less? well engine wise.

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 06:58 PM

Just looked though my Hyper Revs and it said its 190ps?

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 07:09 PM

187.40 horsepower lol

i thought this thing was running more?

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 07:28 PM

It's not about how many horses a car has its how it uses the ones it has and how it puts it down due to lag etc a lower power glanza could beat a higher spec one if not set up properly

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 07:36 PM

Such an awesome car.

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 07:42 PM

There were either 2 evolutions of the jam demo car.

4efte with 190 ps

Then later on (guess thet couldn't sell it) it was running the 5e spec.

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 07:47 PM

Just looked though my Hyper Revs and it said its 190ps?


thats a different evolution of it runing a 4e and standard ct9

it evolved onto 250ps, cams, 5e and blits hybrid

lol bet me too it

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 07:50 PM

Ohh, dope!

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