_shaun_ Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 id say the ebc reds am running atm work better at cold than the oem brakes did when warmed up a bit then when u put some heat in to them the fun can start but if your gonna be driving stupid with cold brakes your just asking for trouble to start with regarless of brakes its like starting your car from cold and red lining it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keri-WMS Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 but what im saying is i no 4pots will be good on the track but on good weather will i be able to stop my car?no one seems to be able to answear the question of how the perfrom when coldAll with the same pads:- A 4-pot 275mm setup will be better from cold than a Levin twin-pot slider setup- ...and also better than the standard GT setup.To put it another way:- With standard pads/260mm discs in my MR2 I couldn't lock the wheels, hot or cold.- With EBC Reds/260mm discs in my MR2 I couldn't lock the wheels easily when cold, better when hot.- With EBC Reds/277mm discs/WMS calipers in my MR2 I COULD lock the wheels from cold, and very easily when hot.....id say the ebc reds am running atm (in a WMS kit) work better at cold than the oem brakes did when warmed up.....What he said! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ollie ryan Posted July 16, 2011 Author Share Posted July 16, 2011 Can you pm me a price on a set of 4pots with everything I need to fit and so they will fit under my 15inch rays ce28 and do they work well with abs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shorty Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Still think twin pots and good discs and pads are perfect ollie. Yea ok a caliper my want a rebuild but fook me that costs nothing, and discs and pads arent that pricey for them either, and as me and turbo grant know, (as does zac now he has my old kit) there ARE direct bolt on discs available too so no spacers anymore. Far far cheaper than a wms kit and more than man enough for what you want dude. Wms and wilwood kits are expensive and for that money you could buy r32 or s14 4pots with a 'dog bone' adaptor and run that cheaper too! Is the most overlooked upgrades for starlets and there are plenty of upgrade options if you can be bothered woth the work to fit em and you have my number if you want advice or help with engineering Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ollie ryan Posted July 17, 2011 Author Share Posted July 17, 2011 hmm but if im doing it i would buy twinpots and rebuild them so by time i have done that i would spend near on the same as buying willwoodsand also trying to source ae111 twinpots is hard! lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shorty Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Lol the speced up wms/wilwoods are like 650-800 and a twin pot kit wont cost anywhere near that bud. Its your choice i just dont think many members realise how easy an uprated kit can be formed and so end up spending a bomb on 4pot kits wich arnt realy needed. And a nissan 4pot kit can be built up cheaper too! Sourcing calipers from japan keeps costs down. Yes 4pot kits are good, 6 pots are better and 8 pots are better still but fook me lads we dont drive 800hp skylines! 200-300hp starlets do just fone on twinpots and if you realy want to go all out then upgrade the rear brakes, big arse 4pots are great but you are setting the brakes to front end heavy imo, look at the ampunt of spins from 4pot starlets on track? I just dont get the obsesion? 4pots are like the new plug and play ecu, every one wants it because its less hassle and works! Dosnt make it the best option for your setup though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dan507 Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 When i eventually get a turbo starlet, im not going to piss about the the stock brakes, just going to go straight in with 4pots Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keri-WMS Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Can you pm me a price on a set of 4pots with everything I need to fit and so they will fit under my 15inch rays ce28 I'll bung you a PM in a sec! and do they work well with abs?Yep - see:The WMS T20 with our kits has been matched to the original Starlet calipers, so the ABS sees the same "load" and can react as normal - so yes WMS kits are fully WBS compatible (and don't mess up the car's front/rear bias). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keri-WMS Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 after a very bad (and pretty scary) brake fade experience on track last sunday, a wms brake set up is next on my to do list once ive got the engine sorted! so you should hopefully be getting a pm in a month or so keri!Cool, sounds like a good idea - look forward to helping your car stop properly! When i eventually get a turbo starlet, im not going to piss about the the stock brakes, just going to go straight in with 4pots Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryan lang Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 check amjads build thread for his brake setup, i drove his car the other week, and it stops more than efficiently, and i know i havent got the speed of a turbo, but my levins cost 350, they were freshly rebuilt, came with new pads and discs, and some toms braided lines stop on a penny Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Amjad Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Haven't managed to post up until now but yeah I love my GT4 setup They already feel like they have braided lines and I had no brake fade on track, I stamped on them too! Using stock pads costing £21 They're not as sharp as before track (but still good), I'm guessing that's just because I wore the pads away quite a bit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thunderpants Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 I had a set of AP racing 5000+ 4 pot calipers on 293mm discs with ferodo ds2500 pads and the stopping force was unbelievable, would highly highly reccomend these, stopped much quicker than wilwoods and never ever faded and i must say i "tested" them very well gary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SiCaln Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Gotta be the Endless micro6s lolLovely smooth stopping and if u plant it endos Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ollie ryan Posted August 28, 2011 Author Share Posted August 28, 2011 well i have decided to go with wms as the work with the abs well and are easy to get hold of Quote Link to post Share on other sites
antheon2010 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 What about rear caliper upgrade ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TimD Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Unnecessary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rwdrev Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) compbrake pr7's and fiat coupe 20v turbo 305mm x 28mm discs, custom brackets and 11mm wheel spacer under a 16" wheel Edited December 17, 2014 by rwdrev Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 compbrake pr7's and fiat coupe 20v turbo 305mm x 28mm discs, custom brackets and 11mm wheel spacer under a 16" wheelFuuuuuuuuck !! Also you got enough wheel weights on that wheel ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RichWillmore Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Just get Russ on the forum to hook you up a set up of twin pots. Such a great price and from what i understand, i massive upgrade on the braking front! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rwdrev Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Fuuuuuuuuck !! Also you got enough wheel weights on that wheel ? lol. haha, should see how close they are to the caliper, lol. heres a pic for size comparison Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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