out of pocket £3000 with no sign of gettting it back !!!

[glanzagee]

yes and just so you guys dont fall into the same positions as us heres there web site

/>http://highboostmalta.com/

[yaristurbo]

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Edited December 15, 2012 by yaristurbo

[_shaun_]

realy awkward situation adam acting as the middle man and doing the group buy has realy got him caught in bad situation. if he cant get the money back from the company hes responsible for giving you your money back however its not like were are talking about a few hundred quid not many people have that sorta money sitting around to just give out.

[wickedep]

unfortunately i was the other group buy participant and also lost out similar amount of monies since i paid for a full kit. PayPal is a no go since the whole thing kept draggin on and it exceeded the 45 day limit for a claim etc. being overseas there's nothing much i can do i suppose. i was supposed to buy the box originally from keith@zisco..but i made a bad decision unfortunately due to a lack of funds at the time..oh well..saving up once again and this time i will be buying from zisco..lesson learnt.

but gee is right...adam is totally responsible for this mess as he was the group buy leader. he should at least make an attempt to pay us back in small installments etc. its the right thing to do..

[pig666eon]

absolutely terrible reading this didnt think so much money could have been scammed out of people

because adam was the organiser his agreement with yourselves was to get get a dogbox for the money stated either way he is totally responceable for getting the dogbox in or sorting out the money, its him who got scammed not yourselves. not that adam is a bad lad by the looks of it but he will have to take accountability for whats happened

flights to malta will be the thing to do wouldnt be much a bit of sun, sea and c4 would to yous good, has adam shown yous all the payments sent ect ect? even tho its too late for a paypal action but records will still be there

[micky boy]

I am very supprised to see that Adam still hasnt commented on this thread to be honest!

How true this map is on there website to where they are bast i dont know but it could be worth a trip over! But then again takeing the trip over there is more money comeing out of your pocket! Would be alot easier/cheaper if you knew someone over there.

408,

St Joseph High Street

Santa Venera SVR 1013

Edited December 16, 2012 by micky boy

[LukeSR]

Who did you send the paypal payment to? If it was Adam, I'd be straight round to him.. If its to the guys in Malta then I'd be on the first plane out to there. £3000 isn't a great deal of money but it certainly is when you have nothing to show for it!!

[ryan lang]

£3000 isnt a great deal of money? what world are you living in? lol

£3000 is ALOT of money

adamB was active on here yesterday making posts in other threads. also going to malta, isnt going to guarantee getting your money back, or anything at all for that matter

have a good think about anything you plan to do, otherwise you could end up even worse off than you already are

[LukeSR]

£3000 isnt a great deal of money? what world are you living in? lol

£3000 is ALOT of money

adamB was active on here yesterday making posts in other threads. also going to malta, isnt going to guarantee getting your money back, or anything at all for that matter

have a good think about anything you plan to do, otherwise you could end up even worse off than you already are

Yeah sure its alot of money, but in the world we live in today its not really is it? I don't mean to sound like I have cash to burn as I don't but to me its not a great deal.

[ryan lang]

£3000 is alot of money to spend on a gearbox for a car he probably didnt pay £3000 for

[Taggy]

if i knew where that cunt lived and he had my £3000, i would be on the first flight and smash the fuckers door down. Its not just 3k hes taken, its 6k!!!! i bet hes having a right old hoot about that. Do you have the guys address in Malta who actually took receipt of the money for the box?

Take a trip to Malta, find a local BandQ get tooled up and go pay him a visit lol!!

Edited December 16, 2012 by Taggy

[Idrees]

£3000 isn't a great deal of money

Really?! How long does it take you to earn £3k?!

[Sparky]

HE is 100% responsible.

I would be asking him for proof that HE has paid this company for these gearboxes before I would go chasing up anyone else.

If he is online he should be posting here and putting his 2p in he has alot to answer for

[Sparky]

Yeah sure its alot of money, but in the world we live in today its not really is it? I don't mean to sound like I have cash to burn as I don't but to me its not a great deal.

So you wouldnt make a great deal out of loosing 3k? stop talking shit lol

[Amjad]

£3k isn't a lot haha Luke I need to get into your profession if so

Sorry to hear about this, hope you guys manage to sort something out

[redz11]

Lukes getting his car wrapped in 9ct gold soon

terrible situation though, hope it gets resolved for you both gee and wickedep.

[corofin12345]

id be getting my money back fairly fast from who ever is responsible!

[shorty]

Tbh i see where luke is coming from. its shit and id be mad and certianly do everything i can to get it back but people get scammed for like 70k from cowboy builders and that so like luke said in the world we live in where an average house is like 200k then 3k is a relativly small amount but equaly 500quid and id still ne pissed. think its the pure cheek and princapal rather than the sum in most cases.

[Fozzie]

Has anyone thought about informing the police in Malta? I don't know if being a part of the EU might mean that they can investigate it themselves?

[AdamB]

Hi guys,

Sorry for the delay as I have been having exams at uni, so been preparing for them.

First off I would like to say I am sorry, and it is a complete shit situation to be in, it has truely saddend me beyond belief that something like this has happened. I'm not a scammer and have had many deals with people on here and TGTT in buying and selling items.

I'm not trying to start an argument I'm mearly getting my point across.

Both Gee, and Sacha were aware of the manufacturer of these kits, they were both sceptical about sending money without knowing who the manufacturer was, I have nothing to hide nor have I got anything to hide from any member on here. Adding to this, I do not understand why Gee decided to leave it so long before finding out that this/these guys were cons? I done some research on the net and found nothing about the company, other than the address of where they are/were located. I'm not as close to the guys at Zisco as are Gee and Sacha, so cannot understand why their research with the help of Zisco wasn't carried out sooner to save this trouble. Not trying to blame, whats done is done, it is just puzzling for me.

It WAS and still IS my responsability to try and retrieve OUR money back, I would just like to point out that not only have Gee and Sacha been victims of this situation, I have also lost the same amount of money, (circa £2200).

I have made a complete report of all the happenings that I have been through, ie, phoning the bank, going into 3 different branches, contacting who I need to contact etc to try and get this resolved.

I don't need to explain what I have been through as both Gee and Sacha know what I have done to try and get the money back, but for those who don't know it goes a little something like this:

I sent the money through the bank, thinking I would have protection from them incase things go tits up, when the shit did hit the fan, I was straight onto the phone to the bank, I was then told there was a chance of me claiming the money back through a fraud dispute. I then went into branch to get a dispute form where I was told to use the phone to ring their office to get one of these forms sent to me. Whilst on the phone I was then told I wasnt able to claim the money back because it was sent as a transfer, rather than a payment. Great, I wish I would have been told this by the bank at the time of sending the money, considering it was rather a large sum!

After this I went to a different branch were I was told rather than it being a dispute with the bank, it would be a VISA dispute, once again I was told that I couldn't file a dispute with VISA because it was a transfer, not payment.

After phoning Citizens advice, I was informed of a setup called ActionFraud, which work alongside the police to create reports where they will look into them. I first had to issure the guy in Malta with a notice period of intent, to either send the goods, or recieve a refund. None of which was acheived by the end of the notice period. I then made a report with ActionFraud and created a CRN (crime reference number). Whilst creating this report I was told that the best thing to do, since it was an overseas situation was to keep the contact to try and get the money back.

I have kept contact and all I keep getting it seems is excuses, and I really don't know how people can sleep at night by ripping people off. I am a genuine guy, trying to have a better walk of life by going to uni, have me own place and settled in a relationship.

I would have no doubts about giving both Gee and Sacha back their money from my own accord, the fact is I simply don't have the money, nor will I have it for a very long time. I'm more than happy to send them some money, but I doubt they would accept because of such very small sum, and to add to that, I have been on Starlet sites now for the best part of 3 years, since then I have been saving as much money as possible to gather the best parts for my own build, and I can tell all you guys now the only parts I have are, forged pistons, forged rods, headgasket, manifold, downpipe, valve springs, fuel rail and a set of seats. It has taken me 3 years to gather these parts, so you can guess how long it would take me to gather £5000 to pay these guys off!

I don't wish to get such a bad reputation from this, I've been around for quite some time, I have tried to do what is best for all of those involved. I have around 60 emails from this guy in Malta, all saved as evidence, even ones where he says hes willing to give me a refund, yet nothing has been recieved. I also have statements printed off from the bank to prove that I have sent the money.

I'm quite confused as to why this thread has come about in my opinion, this is a public forum not a court, but I feel as if it is trying to make a mockery of myself.

I respect those people that haven't just jumped on the bandwaggon and started slating to me death like would of happened on other forums.

I would be more than happy if anyone has any questions regarding this to PM me, I have nothing to hide, I am a victim of this and not the guy that Gee and Sacha are after.

Thanks

Adam

[Taggy]

In fairness to Adam it sounds like hes been unfortunate in the circumstances, it does sound likes hes been trying to resolve this. Whats the reason the guy selling the dog boxes cant give a refund, Do you have his address?

Edited December 17, 2012 by Taggy

[StarletMad]

Bastard!

[AdamB]

All I have is an address which is posted on the website mate. I also have his phone number.

He keeps making up excuses to me such as, the courier lost the shipping information, I recieved and email from him earlier today that he wasn't trying to do any malice towards me, and that I will be refunded with compensation included for the trouble. I'm going to give it a few days and try and find out a date of when this refund will be happening.

[StarletMad]

Feel sorry for you bud

[shorty]

i have to say credit to adam, I've had a good few convo's with him on the forum over the years. he is clearly doing his best and as was very well pointed out he to has lost money with this. hope it all gets sorted in the end as the three of you all bought into the idea with good faith and the guy has clearly taken the piss.