Socks Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Put together some useful information for you lovely members!Differences between the two boxes and how to identify them apart! http://www.ukstarletowners.com/page/articles.html/_/drivetrai/c52-gt-turbo-vs-c56-glanza-gearboxs-r45 Hope this helps someone! RegardsSocks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H_D Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Awsome info there. I always assumed I had a C56 in my V simply beacuase its a V, but looking at the pictures I have the C52. No need to hunt one down now Im sooo happy!!!! Thanx again for this info!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StuDoc 72 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Same looks like it may have been changed at 98 rather than between ep82 and ep91?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 See wat u can get in 3rd gear on the limiter folks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StarletSr? Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 my 97 glanza I would but im running a jam ecu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StuDoc 72 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 I can go out and look at mine right now if you want mate? Is the difference in the casting a definate way to tell? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 someone with a pre-facelift glanza hit the limiter in 3rd please! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StuDoc 72 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Ill do it on the way home I finish at 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TrisK Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 someone with a pre-facelift glanza hit the limiter in 3rd please!STill with speedo inaccuracy, its not perfect... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 According to the digging ive done online yes... but if so many people have them on pre-facelift glanzas then maybe its only later glanza boxes that are like this! Its all research tho, so please post up your findings... thats the whole point of the wiki afterall! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 C56 are a 97- onward box its the same with levins.But there is 2 variations of c52 boxes as im running a levin c52 and have a corolla gti c52 and 3rd and 4th are different in them as well Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 Ah so many earlier glanza's were blessed with the C52 then... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StuDoc 72 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Sound I know mines is cast the same as the C52. Ill do the 3rd gear test on the way home. But like Trsik says between speedo converters, wheel sizes and old parts I dont know how accurate it will be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 Sound I know mines is cast the same as the C52. Ill do the 3rd gear test on the way home. But like Trsik says between speedo converters, wheel sizes and old parts I dont know how accurate it will be. Speedo converters are all the same ratio... Tyre sizes will matter... My C52 box maxes at 98mph in 3rd.... 195 50 15 tyres aaddzz123 said his limited at 90mph in 3rd bang on on 195 45 15 tyres... Looking at his casting he has had a c56 box this whole time so... Its interesting... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TrisK Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 aaddzz123 said his limited at 90mph in 3rd bang on on 195 45 15 tyres... Looking at his casting he has had a c56 box this whole time so... Its interesting... Thats roughly 93 without a different tyre size (presuming tyre pressures etc were the same) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H_D Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 mines hits 105mph in 3rd gear @ 8500 rpm and im also running 16s Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StuDoc 72 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 (edited) I know the converters are the same ratio from kph to mph I just mention it because it is something else which allows for play and loss of accuracy. Edited June 14, 2013 by StuDoc 72 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 http://www.gearboxman.co.uk/inforatios.html Allows you to use tyre size to work out what you should be getting using the ratio inputs from the 2 boxes.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StuDoc 72 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 About 96 for me thats 195 50 15 possibly under inflated they havent been checked for months. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iamlegend Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 cant you do a auto box Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ro55ifumi Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 C52 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 (edited) My 2 boxes are 97 compared to 92.Unconverted same wheel size.3rd gear is missing a tooth on the later c52, didnt check 4th but old goes 125+ new is about 122 both gears limiter is at 8200rpm Edited June 14, 2013 by morgey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JayJ Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Same here 96 spec glanza with c52 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akyakapotter Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 (edited) I have a c52 box by the looks of as we'll it's been replaced in Japland has pink marker pen on It 98spec glanza 😎 Edited June 14, 2013 by akyakapotter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StarletSr? Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Mine has pink marker on it to mine gets to 102 with a 8k rev limit if that's any use 195 50 15 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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