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#1 MikeyMoore

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 08:15 PM

Hey guys i need urgent help!!!

i noticed today my dump valve wasn't sounding right and then after a few more boosts it would sound fine, i noticed after giving it a look over i have oil inside the dump valve and on top of the bonnet like inside the engine bay, pretty fresh!! i was wonder if it is the turbo seals or what?! can any body please help?!?!?



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Posted 06 August 2013 - 08:20 PM

Most likely turbo oil seals.. where a bouts is your blow off valve? standard position?



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Posted 06 August 2013 - 08:24 PM

i guess its the normal position, left side just above the drives front head light. there is quite abit of oil and smokes abit more then usual on idle from the exhaust



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Posted 06 August 2013 - 08:38 PM

Sounds like exhaust side turbo seals mate take of your inter cooler piping from the turbo and look in there if there's oil it's the seals

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 08:40 PM

well its been doing it today, i topped it up yesterday with oil...well a 5 litre bottle of castrol so may of over filled it or may even be a damaged piston ring?



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Posted 06 August 2013 - 08:43 PM

indeed if u overfill the engine oil it will flow very well out of the the turbo and dribble around it and through intercooler pipes for sure



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Posted 06 August 2013 - 08:45 PM

You put a full 5 litre in and there was oil in it already????

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 08:47 PM

not a whole 5 litre, but almost whole bottle....my mate said to me the starlet can only take 4 litre's anymore it will over pressure and and push it through the oil seals, can i get this sorted asap or have i basically killed my turbo? :/



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Posted 06 August 2013 - 08:50 PM

I don't even think it's as much as 4 litre mate I'm sure it's only like 2.5 -3 don't start your engine until you have dropped some oil how long have you been running it with that amount in you have way overfilled it I'm surprised its not smoking like a dry fanny

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 08:53 PM

I don't even think it's as much as 4 litre mate I'm sure it's only like 2.5 -3 don't start your engine until you have dropped some oil how long have you been running it with that amount in you have way overfilled it I'm surprised its not smoking like a dry fanny


^ This, I'm pretty certain a 5e only takes about 2.8 litres to fill

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 08:55 PM

so shall i just drain the oil and put it back in little by little until its at the perfect level? with any luck i have just over pressured and pushed it through the seals



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Posted 06 August 2013 - 08:57 PM

Dump the oil mate car on a flat surface start putting it in 3-4 glugs at a time and keep checking once you see it register on the dipstick it will only take a few more glugs to fill it just poor a little and check clean the dipstick and check again until its at the full line run the engine for a while and check again hopefully you might have got away with it your oil pressure will be in the roof

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 08:59 PM

so i use new oil? not the oil i drained?



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Posted 06 August 2013 - 09:02 PM

How long has it been in there and if you drain it into a spotless container and filer it back in with a funnel and a gauz then you can use it again if its still clean and not been in long

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 09:03 PM

like a day or two? if not then ill just buy some oil from halfords after work, i will take the top mount off and look through that aswell



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Posted 06 August 2013 - 09:12 PM

Sound mate I wouldn't start the car tho with that amount of oil in bud keep me updated :)

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 09:13 PM

great, means i have to walk to work at 4 am :( 



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Posted 06 August 2013 - 09:18 PM

Well just nip out mate an drop some oil just drop a bit and check the dipstick until its at the right level

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 09:26 PM

well ill drive it stupidly carefull to work tomorrow as its not far and then when im back jack it up and drain it and see where it go's from there :/



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Posted 06 August 2013 - 09:28 PM

It's not gunna matter how carefully u drive it dude just the engine running is going to do damage it will start smoking loads mate so bad ull probably have to turn it of anyway my friend did it once you couldn't see down the street it was that bad

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 09:30 PM

oh :/



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Posted 07 August 2013 - 08:29 AM

you need 2.8 litres of oil if you change the oil filter and oil together and 2.6 litres if you are only changing the oil



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Posted 07 August 2013 - 02:36 PM

totally drained the oil and changed it, out 2.7 litres of oil in, checked the dipstick. just under full and was no smoke :) 



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Posted 07 August 2013 - 02:49 PM

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 02:54 PM

very lucky! checked the turbo, no oil around or on it either 



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Posted 07 August 2013 - 09:36 PM

hmmm still quite abit of oil spitting out the dump valve :/



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Posted 07 August 2013 - 09:45 PM

May just be oil left in from you overfilling give it a few days or change your dump valve

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 09:49 PM


Sounds like exhaust side turbo seals mate take of your inter cooler piping from the turbo and look in there if there's oil it's the seals

 

If its spitting oil out the dump valve it wont be the turbo seals on the exhaust side lol - if it was, the oil would be going down the exhaust.

 

Itll be compressor side oil seals if its still spiting oil out the blow off valve and if its sitting in the IC piping. If its smoking, it could be both compressor and turbine side. If so, take off your downpipe and check for oil round the back of the turbo.


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Posted 07 August 2013 - 10:01 PM

Oil can spill into the compressor side when the exhaust seals have gone iev just had this in the past few days if there's thick white smoke it's normally exhaust side but I didn't kno at the time it had been Overfilled

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 10:15 PM

Oil can spill into the compressor side when the exhaust seals have gone iev just had this in the past few days if there's thick white smoke it's normally exhaust side but I didn't kno at the time it had been Overfilled

 

Id be very very surprised if your oil seals had gone on the turbine side, and then the oil somehow made its way back up the shaft, and past the compressor side oil seal. If it was only the turbine side gone, it would come out of the easiest point, i.e be going out the back out the turbo down the exhaust. 



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Posted 08 August 2013 - 12:58 PM

well there isnt really much smoke, just the dump valve makes a chatter noise sounding like its blocked and spits oil out, ill be taking the top mount off today and will have a look



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Posted 08 August 2013 - 01:44 PM

Theres probably a load of oil in the tmic if it was run while over filled.


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 05:31 PM

cleaned as much as i could, oil is in the pipes at that sooo wiped as much off as i could buy will just have to let the rest burn out i guess






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