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I know you're a fan of the fe :p. But it makes no sense to me to buy one and spend the time swapping everything over to fit a weaker less capable engine than the standard one, just to get you by for a few weeks. He's only going to have to take it out again when he gets an fte and then he'll be left with an fe after doing all the work again.

Ive only boosted a Gen1 FE, valve springs are the same as a GT, rods are as thick and as strong as GT rods (probably are GT rods), crank is marked FTE, the only difference is the pistons which are a higher comp. This is how it came from factory and wasnt made out of random bits by me. Fair enough it isnt easy to find a Gen1 FE but i bet its equally as difficult to find a good condition FTE.

Dont think its a case of not being able to afford to do it right, thats like being too tight to buy a good turbo kit and using a shitey toyosports kit thats been welded so it doesnt fall to pieces within a few miles.... :p

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you see you went totaly oftopic ha ha chap wanted to know to fix on smal money i think you didnt read my reply of the options to use or the parts for his 4efte !!!!""""""""""buy the 4efe and fit the crank in your 4efte !!!! then buy a piston rod from on ere and a new set off bearings with an headgasket and your car will be back on the road for 200£ """""""""""and about the value / devalue most starlets dont even have the original moter anymore and aint registerd to the new moter so there goos your valuemy 4efe block is registered to my chassi on the logbook and is so easy made into a real 4efte again !!!!!!

I didn't go off topic? I said to replace the engine with another fte and sell the old unit to make some money back or keep it for a standard or forged rebuild in the future if he can afford to? I saw your post about buying two engines and mashing them together with bits and Bob bought from here and there but he said that he has a time limit as he uses the car for work. And in my opinion as a buyer if I went to view an originally turbo car that then had a none turbo engine in any way I'd be put off. Same applies with any car not just starlets and i'm sure a lot of people would agree with me. Not because it's not original and registered but just because it's supposed to have an fte and has an fe lol. Be different if it were the other way around as it's considered a better engine swap.

Ive only boosted a Gen1 FE, valve springs are the same as a GT, rods are as thick and as strong as GT rods (probably are GT rods), crank is marked FTE, the only difference is the pistons which are a higher comp. This is how it came from factory and wasnt made out of random bits by me. Fair enough it isnt easy to find a Gen1 FE but i bet its equally as difficult to find a good condition FTE.

Dont think its a case of not being able to afford to do it right, thats like being too tight to buy a good turbo kit and using a shitey toyosports kit thats been welded so it doesnt fall to pieces within a few miles.... :p

I wasn't aware there were different generation fe engines to be fair. I personally don't think it's hard to find a good condition fte. Providing it's been driven reasonably and maintained then a 90k engine is just as good as a 40k engine other than a little extra wear to seals which isn't really a common problem with these engines.

And as for the turbo kit comment it's a little different swapping a bolt on part and doing an engine conversion. If it was a dig at me for running a braced toyo kit then I'd like you to elaborate a little more on your experience with them? Seeing as I've been running a toyo kit for a little while now and apart from a few trimmings when fitting I've had no problems and I don't see what the grief is?... That said you should probably have a go at me on my project thread instead of having a debate on here if you want to get personal with each others builds lol :).

End of the day guys you both run a fe conversion for whatever reason and that's your choice. I personally think if the car has a turbo engine to begin with you should either rebuild your current engine if it dies or replace it with either the same or an upgrade. And that's my choice. That's what I'd advise. Don't understand why you're so touchy about it lol.

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Nobody needs to get touchy, this is just random internet chat :) Theres nothing wrong with using a FE to get you by, but the OP made his mind up he doesnt want to do it that way which is understandable. Just like there is nothing wrong with using a Toyoshite kit (with additional bracing etc) if thats the way you want to do things. Lets be honest they are both cheap ways to go about things, yeah ? So thats why i mentioned it because of the similarities. Personal experience with them, none, but my friend has one in his V and its been nothing short of god awful tbh.

Slating a FE swap is a bit out of order imo, especially when you said yourself you didnt know the different Gens of them. The early ones are more than capable of boost. And Rob H has sucessfully boosted them for 10 years or so.

And technically i dont actually run a FE conversion.... My EP85 came with a FE which i turbo'd :)

I wasn't aware there were different generation fe engines to be fair. I personally don't think it's hard to find a good condition fte. Providing it's been driven reasonably and maintained then a 90k engine is just as good as a 40k engine other than a little extra wear to seals which isn't really a common problem with these engines.

And as for the turbo kit comment it's a little different swapping a bolt on part and doing an engine conversion. If it was a dig at me for running a braced toyo kit then I'd like you to elaborate a little more on your experience with them? Seeing as I've been running a toyo kit for a little while now and apart from a few trimmings when fitting I've had no problems and I don't see what the grief is?... That said you should probably have a go at me on my project thread instead of having a debate on here if you want to get personal with each others builds lol :).

End of the day guys you both run a fe conversion for whatever reason and that's your choice. I personally think if the car has a turbo engine to begin with you should either rebuild your current engine if it dies or replace it with either the same or an upgrade. And that's my choice. That's what I'd advise. Don't understand why you're so touchy about it lol.

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Cheapest option for you to get the engine running again and quickest lad is push the pistons out from the bottom through the top, keep the engine in the car, take off the knackered piston and swap it for a like for like, i have even got some spare ones you can have for free if yours are the same standard size.



Stick a new set of rings on and give it a quick hone to get the glaze off the cylinder walls and put it back together, will cost you a set of head bolts and a head gasket, so about £100. You just need someone to do it for you which can be done in a days work. :)



Otherwise your either looking at a whole 2nd hand engine drop in, £400-800, or a forged lump which is more like £2000+


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