Budnbass Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 I'm converting my 1998 n/a CD to turbo, ive got all the mechanical side of things worked out. I'm just trying to sort out the electrics. I know there's a few ways to do this.....Firstly do the Ep91 4efte ecus have an immobiliser? I.e. If I found a doner vehicle and had both looms, clocks, stalks and ecu would I need the keys and ignition barrel aswell?Or secondly from what I've read on here Ep82 ecus don't have an immobiliser so I would just need the engine loom and ecu and then change the pin out puts of the N/A interior loom to fit the Ep82 Ecu? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SKINY Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 im doing this to and im in the same boat, my plan is to use a GT engine loom and ECU. The car will have to be re-pinned it hard wired to the other GT connectors'.well in my head that's the way i want it to be Quote Link to post Share on other sites
funny onion Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Don't take my word but I don't think EP91 or EP82 have an immobiliser so you could use either. You could keep your standard ignition barrel but you may have to rewire a few wires to suit, same with the interior loom. I used an EP82 ECU and engine loom when converting my EP70 to 4EFTE. I kept all the interior original including loom, ignition barrel etc, The only thing mine lacks is a speed signal to the ECU but it doesn't cause an issue. The difference being that the EP70 didn't have an ECU at all as standard. Not very helpful I know haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Budnbass Posted October 25, 2016 Author Share Posted October 25, 2016 From what I've read about pin locations and looking at my N/a ecu. They're both 2 connector ecus and have very similar pinout puts. So what I'm thinking is....the 26pin connector is the engine loom which if replacing with an 82 ECu and engine Loom will fit fine then the 16 pin connector is the interior loom which looks like the NA interior loom connector will fit the 82 ECU it will just need a few wires swapping round to the correct locations and all being well it should work.It seems a lot easier than swapping clocks, dials and interior looms.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
funny onion Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Yeah that sounds like a plan to me, I would avoid having to swap the interior loom etc, leave it where it is and look at the pin outs. If you got someone to cut you an interior 16 pin plug off a breaker you could make a harness which would be even better Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Budnbass Posted October 25, 2016 Author Share Posted October 25, 2016 From what I can see in google pictures the interior loom connectors look exactly the same for 82 and the NA so fingers crossed it should be a case of just swapping a few wires. If I've got time I'm going to document this step by step and do a 'how to guide' of everything you need and what goes where. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SKINY Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 sounds good, I've no had time to look a the ECU pin out but what you say is exactly what I have in mind, let's hope we are right lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
funny onion Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 There may be subtle differences in the loom itself, switched earths vs switched powers etc, just plug it in and see what happens lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lukEp Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Glanza and UK has two different looms 96spec and 98spec. Your life will be so much easier getting the right year loom. I've a 96spec CD and 96spec glanza loom, It just plugged in under the bonnet. The dash loom from uk will not plug into a glanza ecu. You need to chop the plug off and replace it with glanza type one there are also 2 other plugs that need modified but it's not hard to do. The Glanza does not have an immobiliser you can keep the stock UK starlet key and setup untouched it won't effect it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Budnbass Posted October 25, 2016 Author Share Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) Ok kool that's another way to do it cheers. Just to clarify how do it tell if my cars a 96spec or 98 spec? Is it down to what year it is? Mines 1998 R reg. In my head I'm probably making this sound a lot simpler than it is. Another thing is how it would connect to the fuse box...if the 82 loom is the same as the NA loom at the fuse box end. Edited October 25, 2016 by Budnbass Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lukEp Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Put a picture up of the inside of the engine bay fuse box. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Budnbass Posted October 25, 2016 Author Share Posted October 25, 2016 Ok I've now sourced a written off Ep82 so I'm having everything off it...engine, manifolds, turbo, exhaust, engine loom, fuse box, ecu, interior loom, clocks ect literally everything. I'm gunna try and do it the easiest way hopefully by just using the engine loom and ecu but I'll be taking photo'a the whole way through to help anyone else that's doing the conversion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SKINY Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Happy days, will be watching this closely Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sseabass Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) Don't take my word but I don't think EP91 or EP82 have an immobiliser so you could use either. You could keep your standard ignition barrel but you may have to rewire a few wires to suit, same with the interior loom. I used an EP82 ECU and engine loom when converting my EP70 to 4EFTE. I kept all the interior original including loom, ignition barrel etc, The only thing mine lacks is a speed signal to the ECU but it doesn't cause an issue. The difference being that the EP70 didn't have an ECU at all as standard. Not very helpful I know haha I have a fully standard ep91 (1998) with immobilizer. In fact I am dealing with reprogramming it (The 24C04 EEPROM and Poniprog). So if anyone has a immoblizer box (not ECU) for sale please throw me a line. I am experimenting, results will be published here... :-) Edited May 10, 2017 by sseabass Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frankieflowers Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 On 10/25/2016 at 12:22 PM, lukEp said: Glanza and UK has two different looms 96spec and 98spec. Your life will be so much easier getting the right year loom. I've a 96spec CD and 96spec glanza loom, It just plugged in under the bonnet. The dash loom from uk will not plug into a glanza ecu. You need to chop the plug off and replace it with glanza type one there are also 2 other plugs that need modified but it's not hard to do. The Glanza does not have an immobiliser you can keep the stock UK starlet key and setup untouched it won't effect it. Hi. What about a ep91 4efte loom in a 1998 E111 Corolla? What do you suggest? I’m looking for diagrams to do the pin work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frankieflowers Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 On 10/25/2016 at 9:13 PM, Budnbass said: Ok I've now sourced a written off Ep82 so I'm having everything off it...engine, manifolds, turbo, exhaust, engine loom, fuse box, ecu, interior loom, clocks ect literally everything. I'm gunna try and do it the easiest way hopefully by just using the engine loom and ecu but I'll be taking photo'a the whole way through to help anyone else that's doing the conversion. Dis you every do the build thread? I want to take a look! Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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