Frankieflowers Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 On 11/18/2009 at 7:22 PM, Newbe said: This may help check wallaceglanza's thread shows how he has done it http://www.ukstarletclub.com/forums/index....=oil+temp+gauge hope it helps Matt Hi. I’n looking for the same info in 2021.the link os unavailable. Can you help? Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
candy_red Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 WIll you be running AC? If not then a sandwich plate is the best and cleanest solution. Just grab one and grind away the material needed to clear the power steering tensioner bracket. I have my old one that i used before adding the oil cooler and filter relocation, i can snap some pics for you to see what it looked like when i get home. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akyakapotter Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Oil pressure use a t off the oem location / oil temp take out a bung in the oil filter housing drill a hole in the power steering bracket for the sensor and wire to go through. Cheers nick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RoyalDutchie Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 @akyakapotter Do you know the thread size for both the relocation bracket and the pressure sensor(1/8 BSPT probably?)? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akyakapotter Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Thats for the oil temp adapter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akyakapotter Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 1/8 bspt rings a bell for the oil pressure relocation Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RoyalDutchie Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) Thanks, I've got a adapter with the stri gauge set, but no idea if it is the correct one, the pitch seems fine and the socket for its is 17. Stri also doesn't mention it in the manual😅 Maybe something like this would be usable depending on the space around the pressure switch. Did some searching a while back though a Y-adapter has been used successfully. Edited July 15, 2021 by RoyalDutchie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akyakapotter Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 I use this for mine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frankieflowers Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Hi guys. Can you confirm which sensor on the rte engine in tgese pictures is the oil temp and which is the oil pressure? Also, where should I connect the turbo pressure air pipe? Thanks @Claymore @Sam44 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Claymore Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Frankieflowers said: Hi guys. Can you confirm which sensor on the rte engine in tgese pictures is the oil temp and which is the oil pressure? Also, where should I connect the turbo pressure air pipe? Thanks @Claymore @Sam44 Hi Frankie, This is the Toyota oil pressure sensor for the light on the instrument cluster. As far as I know there is no oil temperature sensor as standard. This is the MAP sensor (Turbo pressure, 2 bar rating) for the toyota ECU. It is already connected to the correct port on the inlet manifold. Edited July 16, 2021 by Claymore Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akyakapotter Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 We don't have oil temp standard. Oil pressure sensor is the one one in the In the 1st pic I've circled it One Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akyakapotter Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Turbo pressure I assume your on about the vac lines do this if it's standard will remove the boost restriction in 1st and 2nd gear. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RoyalDutchie Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 (edited) On 7/15/2021 at 8:32 PM, akyakapotter said: I use this for mine Did you get this on the bay? Edited July 16, 2021 by RoyalDutchie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frankieflowers Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 hour ago, RoyalDutchie said: Did you get this on the bay? No. Tell me more about it. I bout oil pressure sensor and oil temp sensor adaptors to fit the the extra gauge sensors. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frankieflowers Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 13 hours ago, akyakapotter said: Turbo pressure I assume your on about the vac lines do this if it's standard will remove the boost restriction in 1st and 2nd gear. could you please elaborate this? I’m not a huge expert and I need to see this step-by-step. thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frankieflowers Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 13 hours ago, Claymore said: Hi Frankie, This is the Toyota oil pressure sensor for the light on the instrument cluster. As far as I know there is no oil temperature sensor as standard. This is the MAP sensor (Turbo pressure, 2 bar rating) for the toyota ECU. It is already connected to the correct port on the inlet manifold. I was thinking that I could put the air splitter for the turbo boost on the map sensor? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frankieflowers Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) Can you help me figure out these parts? Where connect? @Claymore @Sam44 Edited July 17, 2021 by Frankieflowers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Claymore Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 (edited) On 7/15/2021 at 6:44 PM, RoyalDutchie said: Thanks, I've got a adapter with the stri gauge set, but no idea if it is the correct one, the pitch seems fine and the socket for its is 17. Stri also doesn't mention it in the manual😅 Maybe something like this would be usable depending on the space around the pressure switch. Did some searching a while back though a Y-adapter has been used successfully. I've had a look on the 4efe I have and there isn't a huge amount of space to fit this type of adapter and then the Toyota sensor in the end as the sensor or wiring plug may hit the clutch slave pipe. Also the wiring plug may not reach the sensor: The adapter with hose that akayakpotter suggested will be fine as it relocates the adapter at the end of a hose. Or there is an oil filter sandwich plate (D1 spec) that may fit without modding the power steering pump bracket. 3/4" UNF 16 tpi thread. Outer diameter of housing = 74mm, Inner diameter of housing = 54mm, Housing thickness (not including O-ring) = 28mm, O-ring seal outer diameter = 68mm, O-ring seal inner diameter = 60mm. @Frankieflowers @RoyalDutchie Edited December 26, 2021 by Claymore Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RoyalDutchie Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Claymore said: I've had a look on the 4efe I have and there isn't a huge amount of space to fit this type of adapter and then the Toyota sensor in the end as the sensor or wiring plug may hit the clutch slave pipe. Also the wiring plug may not reach the sensor: The adapter with hose that akayakpotter suggested will be fine as it relocates the adapter at the end of a hose. Or there is an oil filter sandwich plate (D1 spec) that may fit without modding the power steering pump bracket. @Frankieflowers @RoyalDutchie I currently have the adapter akayakpotter mentioned ready to go on. Reduces the load on the thread in comparison to the extension I mentioned before. The actual oil pressure reading should also be very accurate at that location only the risk of damage if any metal shavings are present is very high. I've bought a d1 spec one(just like you did😅), should be arriving somewhere next year(not easy to source anymore to be fair with Toyota thread). One Dutchy had great experience with them fitting without any work, so had to check it out myself. Maybe he got a very rare spec, he did bought it 8 years ago but with regards to the pictures he send me they haven't changed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frankieflowers Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 8 hours ago, Claymore said: I've had a look on the 4efe I have and there isn't a huge amount of space to fit this type of adapter and then the Toyota sensor in the end as the sensor or wiring plug may hit the clutch slave pipe. Also the wiring plug may not reach the sensor: The adapter with hose that akayakpotter suggested will be fine as it relocates the adapter at the end of a hose. Or there is an oil filter sandwich plate (D1 spec) that may fit without modding the power steering pump bracket. 3/4" UNF 16 tpi thread. Outer diameter of housing = 74mm, Inner diameter of housing = 54mm, Housing thickness (not including O-ring) = 28mm, O-ring seal outer diameter = 68mm, O-ring seal inner diameter = 60mm. @Frankieflowers @RoyalDutchie Great info. Can you confirm that this sandwich plate doesn’t touch the stearing pump bracket on the 4efte with air conditioning? I was thinking to buy this adaptor with the pipe extension and pit the other two adaptors one in the other for the oil temp and pressure gauges. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frankieflowers Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 9 hours ago, Claymore said: I've had a look on the 4efe I have and there isn't a huge amount of space to fit this type of adapter and then the Toyota sensor in the end as the sensor or wiring plug may hit the clutch slave pipe. Also the wiring plug may not reach the sensor: The adapter with hose that akayakpotter suggested will be fine as it relocates the adapter at the end of a hose. Or there is an oil filter sandwich plate (D1 spec) that may fit without modding the power steering pump bracket. 3/4" UNF 16 tpi thread. Outer diameter of housing = 74mm, Inner diameter of housing = 54mm, Housing thickness (not including O-ring) = 28mm, O-ring seal outer diameter = 68mm, O-ring seal inner diameter = 60mm. @Frankieflowers @RoyalDutchie What’s the exact model? I ‘ll buy it if fits the 4efte with airconditioning. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frankieflowers Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, RoyalDutchie said: I currently have the adapter akayakpotter mentioned ready to go on. Reduces the load on the thread in comparison to the extension I mentioned before. The actual oil pressure reading should also be very accurate at that location only the risk of damage if any metal shavings are present is very high. I've bought a d1 spec one(just like you did😅), should be arriving somewhere next year(not easy to source anymore to be fair with Toyota thread). One Dutchy had great experience with them fitting without any work, so had to check it out myself. Maybe he got a very rare spec, he did bought it 8 years ago but with regards to the pictures he send me they haven't changed. This is what I’m talking about. Relocation metal pipe from the front right pressure OEM sensor and The other two adapters screwed one in the other with the two oil temp and pressure gouges in the side. I think this is the only way to work around the sandwich plate issue. Tell me what you think about it. Edited December 26, 2021 by Frankieflowers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Claymore Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, Frankieflowers said: Great info. Can you confirm that this sandwich plate doesn’t touch the stearing pump bracket on the 4efte with air conditioning? I was thinking to buy this adaptor with the pipe extension and pit the other two adaptors one in the other for the oil temp and pressure gauges. Hi Frankie, I can't confirm if it fits the 4efte without touching the power steering bracket or air conditioning. I posted the dimensions so you can measure the engine you have to see if it fits. Dutchie has bought one and he can tell you for sure when he has test fitted it. The bottom adapter in that picture fits into the oil pan drain hole and puts the temperature sensor under the car. The sensor is a bit closer to the road (can get hit on speed humps) than I would like. 15 hours ago, Frankieflowers said: This is what I’m talking about. Relocation metal pipe from the front right pressure OEM sensor and The other two adapters screwed one in the other with the two oil temp and pressure gouges in the side. I think this is the only way to work around the sandwich plate issue. Tell me what you think about it. If you want to use the engine block oil pressure sensor port with the MLR adapter shown in the picture above, as far as I know it will have an 1/8bspt on the end and a 1/8npt on the side. The Toyota sensor is 1/8 bspt. The gauge sensors for temperature and pressure will be 1/8 npt. You have to think which sensor will fit in which hole because the temperature sensor needs extra depth and may not fit in the 1/8npt on the side, it may have to go in the end and then you will need 1/8bspt on the side for the Toyota pressure sensor! In the setup below the threads of the ports are different. Red arrow = The original Toyota oil pressure sensor 1/8 bspt (on the side) Green arrow = The gauge oil pressure sensor usually 1/8 npt (on the side) Blue arrow = The gauge oil temperature sensor usually 1/8 npt (needs extra length so must fit in the end!) Orange arrow = these male and female threads must match. You need to check which sensor threads you have and where they must fit on the adapter (side or end) and then you can choose the correct adapters. It would be easier to copy akayakpotter's setup with the Toyota pressure sensor and gauge pressure sensor on the remote hose adapter from MLR. Then the oil temperature sensor in the oil filter relocation port with the adapter if there is room without restricting oil flow. James G also has the temperature sensor in the oil filter relocation port. Edited December 27, 2021 by Claymore Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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