bdohohh Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I'm rebuilding my 4EFE as a 4EFTE so I need to swap the looms. Was just wondering if anyone has any opinions on the best way to do the loom/s - just swap the engine loom over, or swap both looms? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimmymac101 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Rebuilding your na into a turbo ( 4efe-t ) or dropping a 4efte in ? If you can clarify your get the correct answer as there totally different! James Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 ^^^^ whats that got to do with swapping the looms ?????? 4efte and 4efe are the same engine bar internals there is no best way you will have to start unplugging whole the loom and fusebox and trace it back best to mark the plugs where they go etc etc so you wont get lost Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richardc9052 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Or just use a conversion loom and tap into it for rpms ;) that way you don't have to mess about.. You basically end up running 2 and a half looms. The original loom runs the starter, alternator coolant temp gauge and rad fan switch and everything else in the car. Second loom runs injectors and ignition along with all ecu fed sensors. Pm me for more info Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bdohohh Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 I'm rebuilding my 4EFE into a 4EFTE! I have no idea about electrics so just looking for the best way of doing it really, had even considered running 2 looms like that Richard.. Will be a while before I do it, just need to know exactly what loom/s to buy! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bdohohh Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 ^ I meant I hadn't considered two looms like that, phone won't let me edit! Haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimmymac101 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I'm sure that something will correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is that a 4efe-t doesn't need a loom change but a 4efte swap will require a loom change ..... So thats what it's got to do with the loom change James Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dangeestarlet Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Easiest way is change the full loom, engine and full interior loom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bdohohh Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 I have been told by a few to change the full loom. Just looking for as many opinions as possible! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richardc9052 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Well I know where there are 2 looms for 150 each that you just connect to an ignition based positive and earth, connect sensors and away you go. I am running thus setup as are 3 of my friends in an E10 corolla ep80 and ep71. Mine is also in am ep80. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mikey4410 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 as above.have done the swap myself.swapped out ENTIRE loom for the new turbo one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bdohohh Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 Ok looks like that's what I'll end up doing. Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dangeestarlet Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I done the conversion myself and found it easier to swap full loom , and I'd just buy a running 4efte engine , save a lot of time and money Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Get the looms from a Glanza the same year as your N/a, the 96 & 98 spec are different where they go through the bulkhead.Also get ignition setup, clocks, indicator / wiper stalks, inlet & TB, MAP sensor, injectors, oil filter relocator, thermostat housing. Maybe a couple other wee bits aswell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan5793 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 just buy a glanza. kinda wish i had, you have to change everything and then things dont fit the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richardc9052 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Or just use a conversion loom.. Nobody here has used one like this. Of they had they wouldn't be advising to swap the full loom. I can have mine out in 2 mins flat. The only thing that takes time is putting it in, connecting the positive and earth feeds on correctly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Or just use a conversion loom.. Nobody here has used one like this. Of they had they wouldn't be advising to swap the full loom. I can have mine out in 2 mins flat. The only thing that takes time is putting it in, connecting the positive and earth feeds on correctly.You got any pics of this ? Does sound interesting.My 85 was a breeze to convert, literally swapped the ancillary loom which plugs into the existing fusebox. Also fired in a GT dash fot the dials and that was it done. Also converted a 91 for a guy using Glanza looms etc, was a very easy swap no messing about splicing shit and tracing wires lol. Was done in an afternoon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stu Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Two engine looms is a pretty ugly way of doing it but i guess if your that way inclinded it will work. With a bit of effort you can make it all plug and play with the stock fuse box and chassis/dash looms. Just change the engine loom around. There isnt very many differences between 4efe and 4efte wiring anyway. Start by comparing the pin outs of both ecu's, you'll find alot of the pins are the same. Where the 4efe pins are in different positions just pop the pins out of the plugs and swap them around to suit the 4efte ecu. Missing wires just rob from the 4efte loom and lay into the 4e loom and connect as required. Wrap then its all done and tidy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richardc9052 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I'll get a pic of the loom I use to show you. It's not messy.. You can remove the parts of the loom your not using.. With the loom I'm using you can run a 4e in any vehicle you want as long as you have a seperate charging system and a way of operating the starter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bdohohh Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 haha, I have a year to build it so I'm not concerned about it taking a long time, and spreading it out over a year so I won't be spending big chunks of money at once. I need to learn how to build an engine so buying a 4efte and dropping it in is the easy way yeah but I wouldn't learn anything and I wouldn't feel the same accomplishment. Looms will be one of the last things, along with the ecu and manis and stuff, so I have a while to fully decide what to do. Only thing holding me back from doing the interior glanza loom is having to swap stuff around like the indicator etc, just seems like a bit of extra, pointless work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stu Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 You don't have to change any of the interior wiring or the chassis fusebox/wiring (headlights etc). Just mod the engine loom and your away Quote Link to post Share on other sites
antheon2010 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Any help on loom please for a 4efte Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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