Flower Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Sorry to be a pain chaps but I was just looking for some confirmation of what parts on a 4efe are the same as 4efte? I was thinking of using the 4efe block and crank as a base and building a forge engine? If there compatible ? Also is the head the same ? Sorry if it's been asked a million times. If anyone has links for threads concerning this senareo if you could post them up it would be much appreciated by me and other.Doing it this way so I can keep my glanza on the road for the time being 😄 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nitrosmith0815 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 You can build an 4efe with turbo but the crank has a different lift so i would prefer a crank of 4efte... The head and block should nearly the same so you can use ist - only the bolts for "oil relocator" arent there in the 4efe engine... Valves and springs i dont know Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flower Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 You can build an 4efe with turbo but the crank has a different lift so i would prefer a crank of 4efte...The head and block should nearly the same so you can use ist - only the bolts for "oil relocator" arent there in the 4efe engine...Valves and springs i dont knowAhh right. Was thinking about heavy lift cams and updated valve springs anyway ? Yea I was thinking of just using the block anyway as a base. So the cranks defiantly different ? I thought it was the pistons that upped the compression ? Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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5e colin Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 You can build an 4efe with turbo but the crank has a different lift so i would prefer a crank of 4efte...The head and block should nearly the same so you can use ist - only the bolts for "oil relocator" arent there in the 4efe engine...Valves and springs i dont know different lift ????? yes you can use the block and crank no bother na crank will hold upto 350/400 bhp !! the heads are identical ( only valvesprings are diferent ) there good bases for turboing if your forging Quote Link to post Share on other sites
onnaj1000 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Thought the ep91 crank isn't as strong as the early 4efe. I believe the early 4efe crank is the same as the 4efte. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Toffinator Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 All 4E Cranks are interchangeable, Some may be marked differently, ET I have seen on facelift glanza cranks, AFAIK There is no strength difference, no difference in throw etc. Same in the 5efe and 5efhe, some come with a 3e marked crank, some come with 5e marks.If it was me i would use a low mileage 4efe and build a forged lump. there identical really, Pistons are higher compression in an N/A, Valve springs are thicker in an FTE.Build a 4efe with forged bits and uprated springs your onto a winner! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gainzy Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 All 4E Cranks are interchangeable, Some may be marked differently, ET I have seen on facelift glanza cranks, AFAIK There is no strength difference, no difference in throw etc. Same in the 5efe and 5efhe, some come with a 3e marked crank, some come with 5e marks.If it was me i would use a low mileage 4efe and build a forged lump. there identical really, Pistons are higher compression in an N/A, Valve springs are thicker in an FTE.Build a 4efe with forged bits and uprated springs your onto a winner!It almost sounds like your back in a starlet again Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Toffinator Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Hahaha you never know ;) 2 in the space of a month i couldnt resist! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fiddlersport Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 sold a few cranks to peeps and they were not bothered if it was efe or fte as long as its good to install in engine and get the car running again so it must work ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 If you are using a block from a N/a just make sure it has the threaded hole on the back for the knock sensor. I know some N/a blocks had this and some didnt.Its not the end of the world if not just means it will need to be machined in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flower Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 Thanks for all the info guys. It's been really helpful 👍 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Toffinator Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I have just put a 4EFE bottom end into my GT Mate.Swapped over these parts from the 4EFTECylinder Head (Valve springs only difference)Sump for oil returnOil filter housingOil pressure switchThicker MLS Headgasket to lower compression a tadHavent ran it properly yet but the rods and crank are identical to my last glanzas 4EFTE So should be fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 gen1 or 2 4efe skinny or fat rod Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Toffinator Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Skinny rod Colin it was a late spec glanza. Rods in this efe are the same. Snapped at approx 250hp lol unmapped though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 wow thats a great result on those china rods Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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