thaks for the help Bildo much appreciated. I do like the glanza v but have only been driving 10 months and not sure how confident i would be as i own a 1.4 seat ibiza atm. I have driven my bfs glanza v and was petrified as it does pull ya back quite a bit lol. It gave me a bit of an addrenaline rush which is what i like to c lol. I may consider getting a quote though i can see myself adjusting to the torque I got a quote on a 1.3 sportif from my insurance company with one years ncb and was £370 which i thought was quite good. Me and curtstarletsr and a few other cars are going up lake