Yea Ben we should of, next time eh @ Gaz I really love the look of the outside and Carbon isnt top of my list atm ;) (although I have a bit to fill in the stereo DIN surroundwhen I come to fit the Defi controller ) As for tubby set up, in the long run it will either be a WEPR td04 hyrbid or one of Geo's if they are out by then. For now I would be happy with a fmic and everything else to run a bar ;) @ Glanza_cl I know I am so chuffed, wanted one for the n/a if I got round to the conversion @ Gall I think your right nothing will change on the outside for a while bar the FMIC