alrite mate, this is tintins bro shady, you wouldent beleve the difrence in handeling with coilovers on civic! havent fitted them yet but had a go of a civic with them. i already have the adjustable springs on my car and it handles like its on rails as is but just when the road gets bumpy or when you get up into tripple figures (on a trak ovcorse!lol) thay arnt so good! here you have a vti? spend some cash on that! you cant say you dont like a bit of vtec??? i have stage 2 cams and other bits n bobs along with a 9k limeter and it BARKS at you on vtec! you know its right!