well to be be honest i wasnt hammering it or driving like a twat, been to a training course for work (in the country) a bit of shitty snow so i was taking it easy, The front end just WENT in a 60 mph limit............straight across the road (luckily no on coming traffic), did a 180 hit a dipped curb and ended up on an embankment in a field. FFS i got out the car front passenger side tyre was totally of the rim, fucking looked at were i was parked if i had hit a higher kurb or landed a bit steeper down i would have ended up rolling.anyway i had no signal on phone as im in the middle of nowhere, fortunatley (no shit) a mate i aint seen for years stoped and then another and we got it sorted, just amazing how things work out, i mean people i aint seen for years turn up when shits gone wrong ......................................anyone got a decent set of wheels and tyres to sell as my CE28n's need a refurb