Hey Shorty, no need for the measurements now, i managed to swap a EP85 Starlet with 4EFE for a friends quad bike, so i can get the measurements off it. I have another question if anyone could help. I am in the early stages of a project in which i am putting a 4EFTE engine in a Mini, and am planning on using the EP*5 4wd system aswell. I am stuck on if i should keep the 4wd gearbox or not. Does anyone know if you can fit the 4EFTE gearbox (C52 is the code i believe) to the EP*5 transfercase etc?