Wideband questions

[A L 3 X]

My wideband has arrived, and im looking at getting it welded in pretty soon, now firstly, the manual doesn't state how far it should be welded from the turbo, it just says, downstream from the turbo?

Secondly the bung that is with it is a 1" deep Mild steel one, now i've got a S/S one about 0.5" deep, will it do the sensor any damage being a bit further in the flow of the exhaust?

Here is the manual:

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=innovate%20lc-1%20manual&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.innovatemotorsports.com%2Fsupport%2Fmanual%2FLC-1_Manual.pdf&ei=yWaqUJGFLsaN0AXQ0YCoAg&usg=AFQjCNFJTWLPWFNpyINP1qg3khX0mJP8iQ

Section 2.4 is the bung part, would it even be possible to use the narrowband mount point on my WEPR downpipe?

[steve-gers]

my depo one needs to have the bung welded in 36 inches from the exhaust port (at a minimum) I would not put it in the downpipe that is far too close

[A L 3 X]

Hmm, mine doesn't say anything like that just says on turbocharged vehicles: Install the bung downstream from the turbo before the cat(which i dont have), the high exhaust pressure before the turbo interferes with lambda measurement, and the high exhaust temperatures encountered there can damage the sensor.

So would it be best to do it at about 36" away from exhaust port on turbo? And does an ex wastegate affect lambda readings?

[Ryan-11]

weld the bung into the exhaust just behind the gearbox

[A L 3 X]

U got a pic where mate?

[StarletMad]

Near Where the Cat/Decat meets the Centre Part of your exhaust.

[A L 3 X]

Ah ok, well the manual says it should be mounted between 10-2 and not on the bottom so is there anywhere suitable around this area that won't foul the box or engine?

[Ryan-11]

This is the best pic i have

[A L 3 X]

Ah right nice one, I shall investigate tomorrow

[A L 3 X]

Also what do people reckon to the shorter bung?

[turbo Grant]

The shorter bung will work fine

[A L 3 X]

And won't kill the sensor too quickly?

[A L 3 X]

As well, if I have it welded in under the gearbox, will it still give accurate readings from the narrowband signal if I intend to remove the standard sensor and use this?

[A L 3 X]

Anyone confirm if the shorter bung will be ok as I wanna get it welded in tomorrow?

Also, can I use it as a narrowband in the other location

[Broony]

Why would you remove the standard sensor??

[A L 3 X]

because the innovate has a narrowband simulation, so may as well use that as its brand new rather than keep the 16 year old standard sensor

[ramses]

for information

if you look at VW cars , they use the wideband Bosch sensor and they are very close of the turbocharger,in the downpipe....i did mine like this

[A L 3 X]

It's ok I've fitted it all now

My only question now is the manual says the heater in the sensor should always be on whenever the engine is, now my car has a turbo timer built into the alarm, which turns power to everything but the engine off, is this 60 seconds or so cooling down time gonna damage the sensor?

[The Toffinator]

Did you ever sort out the Narrowband simulation mate? And how is the wideband going?

[A L 3 X]

Hi mate, not bothered so far lol, and seems to be okay looks ace with the gauges I have

[The Toffinator]

Haha no worries mate, and cant decide beetween this and the AEM, Unsure!