A L 3 X Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 My wideband has arrived, and im looking at getting it welded in pretty soon, now firstly, the manual doesn't state how far it should be welded from the turbo, it just says, downstream from the turbo?Secondly the bung that is with it is a 1" deep Mild steel one, now i've got a S/S one about 0.5" deep, will it do the sensor any damage being a bit further in the flow of the exhaust?Here is the manual:http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=innovate%20lc-1%20manual&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.innovatemotorsports.com%2Fsupport%2Fmanual%2FLC-1_Manual.pdf&ei=yWaqUJGFLsaN0AXQ0YCoAg&usg=AFQjCNFJTWLPWFNpyINP1qg3khX0mJP8iQSection 2.4 is the bung part, would it even be possible to use the narrowband mount point on my WEPR downpipe? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steve-gers Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 my depo one needs to have the bung welded in 36 inches from the exhaust port (at a minimum) I would not put it in the downpipe that is far too close Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A L 3 X Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 Hmm, mine doesn't say anything like that just says on turbocharged vehicles: Install the bung downstream from the turbo before the cat(which i dont have), the high exhaust pressure before the turbo interferes with lambda measurement, and the high exhaust temperatures encountered there can damage the sensor.So would it be best to do it at about 36" away from exhaust port on turbo? And does an ex wastegate affect lambda readings? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan-11 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 weld the bung into the exhaust just behind the gearbox Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A L 3 X Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 U got a pic where mate? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StarletMad Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Near Where the Cat/Decat meets the Centre Part of your exhaust. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A L 3 X Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 Ah ok, well the manual says it should be mounted between 10-2 and not on the bottom so is there anywhere suitable around this area that won't foul the box or engine? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan-11 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 This is the best pic i have Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A L 3 X Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 Ah right nice one, I shall investigate tomorrow Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A L 3 X Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 Also what do people reckon to the shorter bung? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turbo Grant Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 The shorter bung will work fine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A L 3 X Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 And won't kill the sensor too quickly? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A L 3 X Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 As well, if I have it welded in under the gearbox, will it still give accurate readings from the narrowband signal if I intend to remove the standard sensor and use this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A L 3 X Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 Anyone confirm if the shorter bung will be ok as I wanna get it welded in tomorrow?Also, can I use it as a narrowband in the other location Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Broony Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Why would you remove the standard sensor?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A L 3 X Posted November 21, 2012 Author Share Posted November 21, 2012 because the innovate has a narrowband simulation, so may as well use that as its brand new rather than keep the 16 year old standard sensor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ramses Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 for informationif you look at VW cars , they use the wideband Bosch sensor and they are very close of the turbocharger,in the downpipe....i did mine like this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A L 3 X Posted November 22, 2012 Author Share Posted November 22, 2012 It's ok I've fitted it all now My only question now is the manual says the heater in the sensor should always be on whenever the engine is, now my car has a turbo timer built into the alarm, which turns power to everything but the engine off, is this 60 seconds or so cooling down time gonna damage the sensor? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Toffinator Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Did you ever sort out the Narrowband simulation mate? And how is the wideband going? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A L 3 X Posted December 25, 2012 Author Share Posted December 25, 2012 Hi mate, not bothered so far lol, and seems to be okay looks ace with the gauges I have Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Toffinator Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Haha no worries mate, and cant decide beetween this and the AEM, Unsure! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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