jakeep82 Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 My 82 never starts on first turn of the key , my first thoughts were fuel pump , ht leads or spark plugs ? any one else have starting problems ? or could help me confirm what it could be ? Quote
smobey_sutton2 Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) Its unlikely to be HT lead or Spark plugs as it starts and runs fine on the 2nd attempt i presume? Sounds like a fueling issue, such as needs to turn over a few times to build up enough fuel pressure to start the car. Will it start first time when the engine is already warm? Edited March 10, 2013 by smobey_sutton2 Quote
jakeep82 Posted March 10, 2013 Author Posted March 10, 2013 yes from what i remember it starts ok when the engine is warm , i think lol , Quote
smobey_sutton2 Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Would be a good idea to get the plug the EOBD2 in then and watch the fuel rail pressure on the livedata. When starting the engine from cold, do you wait for the fuel pump to surge with the ignition on before turning the key? Quote
jakeep82 Posted March 10, 2013 Author Posted March 10, 2013 yes i wait for it to surge it makes a noise for a few seconds then will stop , and whats that you said above mate :/ Quote
jimmymac101 Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 I had a similar problem with my coolent temp sensor on my na, it was dodgy (eventually the engine management light came on) and the car wouldn't start first time when cold but when it was hot first Time everytime maybe something to consider James Quote
jakeep82 Posted March 10, 2013 Author Posted March 10, 2013 my management light is on :/ always has been lol Quote
jimmymac101 Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) This is what tuning developments sent me when I was chatting to them! ECU codes, in the diagnostic port under the bonnet, bridge TE1 and E1 with a paperclip, then put your ignition to the on position, count the flashes from the ECU light and let me know what the codes are.It'll give you two numbers for each code, with a pause between them, ie:Flash... Flash... Flash........................... FlashThat would be code 31See what pops up mate it may well have something to do with your start up James Edited March 10, 2013 by jimmymac101 Quote
jakeep82 Posted March 10, 2013 Author Posted March 10, 2013 ok then mate ill give it a go im no good with electrical side of things :/ Quote
smobey_sutton2 Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 As JimmyMac said could be the engine coolant temperature sensor playing up. If you use the EOBD2 (Diagnostic Plug in). Go into live data, and look to see what temperature the sensor is reading the outside temperature to be etc. You'll soon hopefully spot something that indicates what it is. Quote
jakeep82 Posted March 10, 2013 Author Posted March 10, 2013 go into live data on what ? sorry im confused lol :/ Quote
jimmymac101 Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 ok then mate ill give it a go im no good with electrical side of things :/Nor am I mate, follow those instructions it's simple as hell! And saves money on a diagnostic test on a garage on the lid of the diagnostic port is a label of what's what so your see where to put the paper clip, and then all you do is turn ignition on ( do not start engine ) and count the flashing lights as td said Post up what the lights show when you do it James Quote
jakeep82 Posted March 11, 2013 Author Posted March 11, 2013 Ok ill post up the flashes on what I get , and a compression test ? Really ? Don't scare me lol Quote
jimmymac101 Posted March 11, 2013 Posted March 11, 2013 Are te1 and e1 labeled ?Under the lid of the dignistic port James Quote
jakeep82 Posted March 11, 2013 Author Posted March 11, 2013 ok so my management light isnt on no more and the blink test didnt do anything :/ so i done a little video of it starting , it will start on first turn of the key but takes a while http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j416/squidge218/44F6B93C-C13C-425E-A177-8E145AABEA33-12379-0000027B59B0AD1F_zps5a4358d2.mp4'> Quote
jakeep82 Posted March 11, 2013 Author Posted March 11, 2013 http://s1084.beta.photobucket.com/user/squidge218/media/44F6B93C-C13C-425E-A177-8E145AABEA33-12379-0000027B59B0AD1F_zps5a4358d2.mp4.html?sort=3&o=0 Quote
jimmymac101 Posted March 11, 2013 Posted March 11, 2013 jesus that idles high! heres a link to the a picture on google once you have bridged them, turn your ignition on, and if theres any ecu faults it will flash up and you said your light is allways on so you should have flashing lights to show a code! http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=starlet+diagnostic+plug&hl=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ofw9Ub-fOuL17AbqtIDIAw&sqi=2&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1517&bih=714#imgrc=cL1vMwVLn8KEBM%3A%3BfAnDWq3yzxXctM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fi85.photobucket.com%252Falbums%252Fk43%252FRambo_020%252F20130221_173640_zps3554ed0b.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.ukstarletowners.com%252Ftopic%252F61700-diagnostic-port-ig%252F%3B800%3B600 Quote
jakeep82 Posted March 11, 2013 Author Posted March 11, 2013 its only when its cold lol it drops right down to 1k once its warm lol nothing flashed up , the normal warning lights came on and then no management light :/ Quote
jimmymac101 Posted March 11, 2013 Posted March 11, 2013 there isnt any codes logged on the ecu if it didnt flash up, which is a good thing! sure your starter motor isnt on its way out ? james Quote
jayc-glanza17 Posted March 11, 2013 Posted March 11, 2013 easier to start a car when hot, as hot engine can ignite the petrol easier...turn your key to ignition for 5 seconds before starting from cold..so if she starts easier when doing this..also check earths as well Quote
jakeep82 Posted March 11, 2013 Author Posted March 11, 2013 Just leave it turned with out fireing the engine ? Quote
jayc-glanza17 Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 turn key to IGN leave it for 5 seconds, so fuel pump primes, then fire her up..see if she fires better like that.. Quote
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