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What rods to Wiseco pistons fit?


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They fit lovely on Pauters, and they are possibly the best off the shelf combo. I can confirm they fit as I had a set.

Agree with this.

What Wiseco's have you got as mine are just a push fit and retain using the circlips.

They fit with stock rods, but unsure on other aftermarket rods tbh. I doubt they will fit with PEC rods as they are a manufacturer of Wossner, but that said I haven't heard of it before, everyone seems to use Wossner and PEC as a combo, or Wiseco and Scat.

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They fit with stock rods, but unsure on other aftermarket rods tbh.

He said in another thread that the Wiseco didn't fit the stock rods though, which seems to be the opposite of what everyone else says?

Bit concerning as I was planning on using Wiseco pistons with my FHE rods... :(

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Ive had people tell me you can, then other people who know more about building engines talked to Tim @ TBdevelopments he said you cant. plus forged rods have brass bushings for and oil holes in the small ends of the rods, stock rods dont, cause the pin isnt supposed to pivot, you cant have steel pin rotating in a steel rod (stock rods have no bushing). The stock pistons have oil holes in the bottoms inside the crown to lube the pin that pivots in the piston whereas forged pistons have no holes as the pin pivots in the rod, not the piston! if that makes sense haha


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I've seen over in threads on TGTT before saying that the Wiseco's fit stock rods. I'm just trawlling through the Jamaican's thread now as I'm sure they switched to forged pistons but kept the FHE rods because of their thickness and strength due to their limited supplies.


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Off the too of my head $850 area that's USD.

A little on the expensive side, but if you factor in the money you'll be saving on not having your block machined it's not so bad. They are a tad more superior that the rest of the common 4efte rods

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Not as much as Carillo :p


They are quite expensive around £520 I think, more expensive than the rest, but I can confirm, Wiseco pistons and Pauter rods fit like a glove and they are beautiful!


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That's why I was keen to use a FHE/Wiseco combo, that's a right pain in the tits if I have to get forged rods now too lol :/

Take a read through here

http://www.toyotagtturbo.com/forums/showthread.php?52987-300whp-Jamaica-style&highlight=300whp+jamaica

I got upto page 4 and found nothing so far but I am sure later on in the thread they switched to Wiseco pistons and kept the FHE rods.

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Ahh ideal cheers for that dude, 294whp would do very nicely, my final target in my head is ballpark 250-270 :)

Still confused as to the differences mentioned by EPnick22 though regarding durability of the gudgeon pins/small ends, I guess I have a couple of 5es though so if it all blows up I'll just have to try again ha :p

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tbh mate now Ive had a real look at the wiseco pistons i wouldnt wanna risk running with stock rods, theres no way of the pin being lubricated with oil, running steel pin on steel pin is a disaster waiting to happen


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Ahh ideal cheers for that dude, 294whp would do very nicely, my final target in my head is ballpark 250-270 :)

Still confused as to the differences mentioned by EPnick22 though regarding durability of the gudgeon pins/small ends, I guess I have a couple of 5es though so if it all blows up I'll just have to try again ha :p

It's been done before quite a few times, although I always say if you've gone to the length of replacing the pistons, you may as well just spend an extra few quid and get the rods as well. But that's your own choice and on your own budget. It seems to have worked for many other people, providing the map is good I see no reason why it wouldn't work.

tbh mate now Ive had a real look at the wiseco pistons i wouldnt wanna risk running with stock rods, theres no way of the pin being lubricated with oil, running steel pin on steel pin is a disaster waiting to happen

Tbh I haven't had my 5E apart yet so I can't really comment, but there must be an oil way to lubricate the little end as the rod does rotate on the pin as the rod reciproctates.

Like I said above though, if your going to the length of changing to forged pistons, spend a bit more cash and just get the rods as well, depending on what you want to go for that is, as you can pick rods up for £300.

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the forged pistons are made for the forged rods (the pin pivots in the rod) which is why there is oil holes and brass bushings in the rod little ends. stock rods dont have oil holes in the little end, as the pin pivots in the piston, not the rod! cant pivot steel on steel mate, thats why theres oil holes inside the piston to lube the pin so it can pivot on the piston :)


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