gavcollier Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 Yet again i have another problem but i think this is more seriousThe Breather comming out of the top rocker cover is spitting out oilif i drive it very slow the oil does still spit out but very littlebut as soon as i get the revs up the oil is all over the engineHope someone can help me Not having much luck with this car Thank you in advance Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 whats the spec of your ep,sounds like you need to enlarge the crankcase breather and fit an oil catch can maybewelcome to the club by the way Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gavcollier Posted October 24, 2007 Author Share Posted October 24, 2007 whats the spec of your ep,sounds like you need to enlarge the crankcase breather and fit an oil catch can maybewelcome to the club by the way hey mate,ive been told its 100% the piston rings so its not looking goodspec isBlitz dump valve RSR stainless straight through exhaust HKS Fuel Cut Defender (FCD) HKS Programmable Fuel Computer F-CON (PFC) HKS Air Filter Greddy Trust front mounted intercooler Upgraded adjustable turbo actuator Upgraded high flow fuel pump NGK silicone spark plug leads Denso IK22 Iridium spark plugs FET TB-308 Turbo Timer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 ahh ok, i did not know your set up so presumed you had upgraded the turbothe only way to know if its the piston rings 100% is to do a compression test on all the cylinderswhich involves taking the spark plugs out and screwing a compression tester into everyone of those cylinders,bad luck if it is mate,whats the most boost you have run on your turbo? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gavcollier Posted October 24, 2007 Author Share Posted October 24, 2007 ahh ok, i did not know your set up so presumed you had upgraded the turbothe only way to know if its the piston rings 100% is to do a compression test on all the cylinderswhich involves taking the spark plugs out and screwing a compression tester into everyone of those cylinders,bad luck if it is mate,whats the most boost you have run on your turbo?I bought the car as it is,its normally about 0.9 1.3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gavcollier Posted October 24, 2007 Author Share Posted October 24, 2007 done compression test and the 3rd cyclinder is fcuk1=12.52=12.53=64=12.5How much would i be looking at for new rings Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StarletRick Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 aaaah the old classic 3rd cylinder problem... i will bet all the money in my pocket that you have the stock manifold on it... stock manifold = tiny third runner = meltey piston/rings.you might want to get the head of and check the piston, if youre lucky itll still be ok. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gavcollier Posted October 24, 2007 Author Share Posted October 24, 2007 COSTWell this is the biggest issue as money is very tightLabour alone is 300poundPartsHopfully its just the rings gone,rings come in a set of four which are 75poundHeadgasket set is 45pound oddObv the piston could also be damagedNew pistion is 34eachSo the sum off it all...........im totally peed off,very gutted about it but theres no point of me moooping aroundTime to crack onNow for the planMy mate thats going to do it sugested that i strip it down,head pistons etche said this would save me alot of money with the labour.me and matthewhughes off her will be doing it with the guidence on my gramps(lol) who is very good with carsSo im hoping to cut the cost down as little as possibleThe only IFs and Buts areWhat if the barell is scored,that means bigger pistons hhhhhhmmmm ill leave that thought with you ,will keep you updatedand yea mate its standard manifold Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gavcollier Posted October 25, 2007 Author Share Posted October 25, 2007 anyone........................................ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 we are not as buissy as tgtt so you will sometimes have to wait longer for a reply. sorry about that.here is the restriction in runner number three and the cause of your problem after running too much boost,instead of going to the trbouble of opening up and stripping your engine and getting standard parts which can be a lengthy and unreliable process as once you do one bit you need to do another, it can get really expensive especialy if your not familiar but i dont know your background.you would be better off getting a sealed unit. if you can aford a 4efte replacement then good for you, they are obtainable fairly easily.my option to you would be to sourceif an 5e- fhe unit from a cynos betta (alot thicker rods than the 4efte)and transfer the turbo ancilarys over to this engine along with a thicker headgasket to trop the compression.bolt that all up and you will have a stronger 1.5 engine(they look identical and fit identical) along with more torque across the board this set up is good for 250-280 with the right tune and turbo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gavcollier Posted October 25, 2007 Author Share Posted October 25, 2007 yea i thought so mate,i need to be more patient tbh lolCheers for the info,i think ill strip it down and see what i find Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StarletRick Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 are you crazy enzo, dont recommend a 5e swap! 5e swap = LOTS OF MONEYS... i say that from personal experience. itll take you about a day to strip down the 4e and get the ring sorted. if the bore is scratched, then youll have to get the engine out and decide what you want to do. either new block or open the bored up, i recommend no more than 0.5mm. if there is more than a .5mm damage then id recommend a new block. the walls are scary thin of 4e's as stock and making them smaller is asking for trouble. having your block bored out and a new set of oversized forged pistons will cost about 4-500 quid. then i STRONGLY recommend getting a better manifold, unless you want to do this again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gavcollier Posted October 25, 2007 Author Share Posted October 25, 2007 are you crazy enzo, dont recommend a 5e swap! 5e swap = LOTS OF MONEYS... i say that from personal experience. itll take you about a day to strip down the 4e and get the ring sorted. if the bore is scratched, then youll have to get the engine out and decide what you want to do. either new block or open the bored up, i recommend no more than 0.5mm. if there is more than a .5mm damage then id recommend a new block. the walls are scary thin of 4e's as stock and making them smaller is asking for trouble. having your block bored out and a new set of oversized forged pistons will cost about 4-500 quid. then i STRONGLY recommend getting a better manifold, unless you want to do this again.yea once the engine is done ill take my time to run it in then take my time until i have money for a new manithen hopfully it will all be ok Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 are you crazy enzo, dont recommend a 5e swap!lol not last time a checked bruv, im not on about a 5e swap of your magnitude, thats just scary, im surprised your not bald just an fhe with thicker gasket to lower the compression ratio .its has proven to be a reliable setup and the one im embarking on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Glanza_Ragger Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Dont put ideas into peoples heads about going for a 5e..Thats just breaking the "starbos are a 1.3" rule But yeah, you can do as Enzo said, it all depends on what youre future plans are.May as well save youreself cash whilst you need to change a ring..Either second hand 4efte, 5e conversion or just replace the rings and check for piston damage.What ever you decide on..Get a free flowing manifold on the next engine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gavcollier Posted October 27, 2007 Author Share Posted October 27, 2007 i got the head of yest and piston number 3 is cracked,im going to take the head to be tested tomorrow or one day in the weekOne of the guys of the other starlet fourm has got a spare rod and piston so i think ill get that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gavcollier Posted November 8, 2007 Author Share Posted November 8, 2007 car is now rebuilt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GT_Neil Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 so how much did this cost you? i have an identical problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gavcollier Posted January 2, 2008 Author Share Posted January 2, 2008 Around £200 for partsDone all the work myself with help from my grandfatherThe Turbo has now blown so im waiting on a hybrid Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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