yea i preferred forza2 as well. was playing gt HD a few days ago. was quite poor compared to forza. and i bet alot of those cars will be downloads too. gaz, my 360 on my hdtv looks great, theres not many jaggies or anything. the ps3 was just the same as the 360. and the way sony make the environments look more real is by just imposing the photos on a basic model. theres a screenshot that shows a flowerbed and hotel. it looks like a photo of a hotel has been put on a square block. same with the flowerbed.