haha they are awful mate but look 100 times better now with the rim tape and the time cap saying 'wolfrace' covered up perfectly in a black to match the wheels ;) need peoples opinion, if i was to go forged...........would you go 5e forged or 4e forged? not sure of benefits of one or the other? im thinking that 5e may be if you want to fit a big turbo more for top end and power figures? Markoos