@ Glanza87 - Fair enough i see what car enthusiast you are. You have a fast car for a reason but the circumstances you are talking about a never the right conditions on a public road. Yet again i have done this before, which i hold my hands up to, but that doesn't make it right because i've done it. Everyone who puts there foot down is a tit. I know it when i do it but there is a time and a place like a proper track for it. You may have never had an incident at these meets you are talking about but what if someday some heavy footed tit slides a large car like a 200SX, or something just as big, in to every person watching. All it takes is one mistake and it could change someones life forever or kill them. I work in a law firm and have seen many photos of crashes including street racing as the bodies or badly injury don't look pretty. Bourkey