Boost Abuse Posted July 10, 2008 Author Share Posted July 10, 2008 interesting, very interesting.have you made sure its actually all connected? looks like some plugs aren't connected up there, try and see if you can pull it out.it seems odd that they're both in there together, as the fcon will override everything that the blitz does, the blitz really isn't needed.the only reason i can think of for them both being there is that the car was far more modified before using the fcon, but after being put back to near-stock the blitz access was installed whilst the fcon was left in there as they couldnt be bothered to remove it. or something.check to see if its wired up and see how you get on, i really have no idea why they're both there. you could happily sell the blitz access and then put the money towards any turbo kit you could possibly want, whilst happily using the fcon with a stock ecu setup, although it'd obviously require some very custom mapping by a specialist as those fcon's require some serious knowledge to work with (talk to rick if you want any further info as he has one).very interesting that!i'm pretty sure they're both working, the EVC is connected to the f-con and its workin sweet as, and the light comes on at the front of the f-con aswell to say its on. Theres a couple of leads not plugged into anything but i followed the rest from the ecu to the f-con so they're defaintly connected up to each other.*edit: how much does blitz access ecu's usually sell for? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobSR Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Ecksjay has basically said it all ;)and yes indeed thats a good find...as for mapping AFR Tuning who has just became a HKS Dealer...i know him - good bloke, or TDi aint cheap tho..I suspect it was more modded before also...the previous owner may of bought the car with the Blitz, then added some more stuff and put the F-Con in without bothering to change the blitz back to a stock ecushould be able to get 400 odd quid for the blitz i would think.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boost Abuse Posted July 10, 2008 Author Share Posted July 10, 2008 the car is running sweet atm so doubt i'll change anything,also whats a safe high boost to run with these mods? sittin at 0.5 bar low atm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ecksjay Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 noone said to remove anything thats connected, just see if it is connected, and if its not, then whip it out and flog it on if it isn't needed ;)have you checked to see what else is on it? chances are if its got over a grands worth of ecu mods then it will have either had some silly turbo on it before, or the turbo on it now is aftermarket/modified. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boost Abuse Posted July 11, 2008 Author Share Posted July 11, 2008 Shouldn't be a problem to work that out man, we can fire the wideband on her and test how it's fuelling. Just a matter of finding a boost level that offers the best results with the most response. I can talk you through things much better in person. You on the road yet?nope not on the road yet.... earliest MOT i can get is 18th august!! and i can't register it until its been MOT'd. Taking it to my mates garage (hes a mechanic) to prep it early next week then i'm just gonna bombard the mot centre with calls looking for a cancellation. when the car showed up it was boosting at 1.1 bar i think on high and 0.9 ish on low, but i turned it down as i didn't wanna mess anything up considering it'd been sitting about for a few months. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ecksjay Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 2 BARZ MAET IT'LL BE FINE ^; Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tayyib Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 18th august for mot??? why such a long wait, if i needed an mot done, i could with an 80% chance get it done the same day, otherwise the following day.car looks sweet mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ecksjay Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 think it works a bit different in ireland? possibly, only reason tbh! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boost Abuse Posted July 11, 2008 Author Share Posted July 11, 2008 think it works a bit different in ireland? possibly, only reason tbh!yeah northern ireland MOT centres are a joke, theres one in my town and the next nearest is 20+ miles away... and there always booked up! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dean @RW-Developments Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 thats well unlucky you have to wait so long! good luck at getting done sooner mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GeeUK Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 thats well unlucky you have to wait so long! good luck at getting done sooner mate.I've seen this before, but it was with a K26 setup.As the SARD/JAM etc ECU's are not mappable, it seems like the ECU's are piggy backed.They self learn to a certain degree, but cant cope with fueling for larger applications such as the K26 I dont think. So the car may of been running a larger setup at one point or the owner wanted a finer tune. So he should if just bought the F-Con in the first place Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jonny Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Looks the part. Im sure ill see it flying about the town shortly, varis bumpers are hard to get hold of i tried to get another one for mine but going to have to fix a small crack in it instead. Ive changed the wheels on mine from the white ones to the black an silver ones if u see me about, look out for the GTTuning sunstrip. lolJonny Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ecksjay Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 They self learn to a certain degree, but cant cope with fueling for larger applications such as the K26 I dont think.no, they don't. you of all people should be experienced enough to know that. just sound like a tgtt fan-boy speaking like that ;)The blitz access was obviously fitted earlier when he had certain mods, then he went for something mappable with a larger turbo for example and as such added the fcon for the added control, which has been established. either that or the previous owner just wanted some control, and got a deal on the fcon kit.Pre-mapped ecu's dont self learn, at all, ever. They have the same 'self adjustability' of the standard ecu's, except they're mapped by the manufacturer to accomodate further modifications by means of fuelling and ignition timing tweaks etc - thats common knowledge.It aint no Kitt ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 lol ;)gettin literal ecksjay "tgtt fanboy" get a grip! with coments like that dude!!!and yea self learning/ self adjustablility???????????ok Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boost Abuse Posted July 15, 2008 Author Share Posted July 15, 2008 just been in contact with the shipping insurance company, turns out my policy only covered loss of the car so i'll not be getting anything to help with the repairs ;)i'm not happy to say the least, i did have a read over the policy and iirc it did say something about damage so i think i might get my solicitor to have a look at the fine print to see as the insurance company may just be trying to get out of paying... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GeeUK Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Probably a discussion for a different thread but.. The stock ecu can 'learn' given enough time Harri. What makes you think the aftermarket ones aren't as smart?Hang on, depends on your terminology I guess. Learning/adjusting/adapting, what's the difference?Yeah, you knew what I meant Harry This was a killer thread:http://www.toyotagtturbo.com/showthread.ph...=JAM+BLITZ+SARDI gurantee you everyone would learn something new if they read everything on here about the JAM/SARD etc ECU's.I was a little less educated than I am now then Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ecksjay Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Yum, the self ecu will tweak things slightly, but it doesn't learn. You aint got an i-robot under the bonnet. It has the same variables as the stock ecu, thats as far as it goes. i never said it didn't have the adjustability of the stock ecu. at the end of the day, it IS a stock ecu. if you slap on a monster turbo, it wont suddenly be all "OH YEAH MATE K26 THAT'LL BE FINE, HAVE SOME MORE FUEL MATES ^^;". We all know that anyway, its just the terminology. sorry to hear about the insurance mate, sucks really but they're always out too get you. bastard insurers.i'm in the wrong industry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ecksjay Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 i agree completely, its sort of a settling in period when they quieten down and relax somewhat, but they do NOT self learn.it's the same with any ecu, same with my s14 and mitsi colt, if you unplug the ecu or battery to reset it, it'll run a little different until its made its mind up and then bam, everything is as it once was. loves it.and yes, as above, get it on the road you big girl. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mi16chris Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 im with ecksjay on this one these blitz jam sard ecus ect ect can ajust a small amount but by no means self learn. think the term gets used to much with them. they would need input from a wideband sensor to self learn and they sure dont have that. any ways nice motor buddy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boost Abuse Posted July 29, 2008 Author Share Posted July 29, 2008 well had the mate prepped for MOT tonight and used the opportunity to see if it was a standard CT9 or not....and its not, its a Blitz K1 put a silly big smile on my face. Few other updates include i ripped the back seats out and i'm waiting on some carbon goodies of mc chu... will get some updated pics up soon. Still no luck with the MOT date, been phoning for cancellations and they have nothing at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forester Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Nice car VERY nice spec. Blitz k1 not many fo them around. also love the wheels. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 What carbon goodies you ordered mate? ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boost Abuse Posted July 31, 2008 Author Share Posted July 31, 2008 What carbon goodies you ordered mate? got a centre console and a rear lip on the way, after some sideskirts too if the group buy goes ahead!oh, and my car passed MOT today.... MINT! ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Cool Im waiting on the centre console and binnacle surround and just put my deposit on the rear lip! :PTell me about it we need one more name like!! Good news ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boost Abuse Posted July 31, 2008 Author Share Posted July 31, 2008 Cool Im waiting on the centre console and binnacle surround and just put my deposit on the rear lip! Tell me about it we need one more name like!! Good news ;)nice one, your car would be a sexy wee beast all carbon kitted lol its a good contrast to the colour.if you want i will tell mc chu to give you my rear lip and i'll get a rear spoiler off him instead, it'll save you waiting and i don't mind hanging on till the sideskirts are confirmed before gettin the lip Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.