Zafar Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 What is the difference between the 5e-fe and 5e-fhe? Can a head from a 5e-fhe be put on a 5e-fe? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SiCaln Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 The fhe has slightly higher lift cams and a different (ACIS) manifold Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 aswell as thicker rods and different pistons for i higher compression, the injectors are bigger too, not all fhe's came with the acis manifold get a few pics of your ride fired up in the extreem ep rides sectin along with a pic of yourself in your profile zafar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zafar Posted May 31, 2007 Author Share Posted May 31, 2007 If i am not wrong enzo, you tried a 5e-fhe conversion what part did you get stuck? What is ACIS? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 no i bought a fhe for my na ep91 what do you drive by the way????i did not complete the conversion due to buying a fucked enginescutcho attempted the conversion and had a nighmare with electrical issues due to the starlet being three plug and the fhe being two plug on the ecuits not a staright forward swap in regards to wiring, everything else is ok though5efe is a piss easy swap that someone compitent could achieve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 ACIS is acustic intake systemhelps with low down tourqe and responce where there are egiht runners in the inlet manifold operated by butterflys, four are open on low rpm. when the revs rise past a certain point it trips a switch whihc opens all 8 runners Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zafar Posted May 31, 2007 Author Share Posted May 31, 2007 I drive an EP-82 n/a starlet dont have any pictures yet. Ill post it up when i can get some pics. ACIS sounds cool. If i was to get a complete 5e-fhe engine complete with wiring harness and ECU the swap shouldnt be too hard.I say this because japanese parts are available in the plenty here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 do you have the 2w engnien or the 4efe if so it should be fairly striaght forward as the wiring in your 82 shares alot with the fhe Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zafar Posted May 31, 2007 Author Share Posted May 31, 2007 4E-FE Engine 4 speed manual gearbox. Claims to be 100bhp but i dont think it is. I have a toyota sprinter as well 5a-fe engine excellent engine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 what model of ep82 is it , the solial and gi had 100bhp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 got any pics?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Idrees Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 The only difference i know is that the 5EFE is 89bhp and the FHE is about 112! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mikey Jay Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 110bhp for the 5EFHE young chap.But could get a lot more with some tuning Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jozinobi Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 Here's some more accurate information.The american specs and figures are all a little higher than the uk versions of the 4e and 5e engines. Earlier engines are more powerful, but toned down later due to emission issues.You can find info on usdm toyota engines here as well as some reference to the 5efhe:Tercel ReferenceFigures often get confused between american specs and uk specs.Here is what I believe to be the most accurate at a glance. This what the UK got in terms of the 4efe and the 5efe but there are many different versions floating about the US and Japan.UK 4efe - 74bhp / 86ft tq195 cc injectorsCompression Ratio 9:6:1Uk 5efe - 89bhp / 96ft tq195 cc injectorsCompression Ratio 9:4:1JDM 5efhe108/110bhp/100ft tq225 cc injectors5efhe cams (1mm higher lift and duration making them 'slightly' more aggressive)thicker 5efhe rods and pistons (these help enable the higher rev limit of 7200rpm and give higher compression ratio of 9:8:1)5efhe ecu - more aggressive base map, allows 7200rpm rev limit and is mapped for the 225cc injectors.Those are the main difference over the 5efe, everything can be used from an 5efhe to upgrade a 5efe but parts don't come cheap.The 5efhe is a jdm engine that was only released in vehicles made in japan, these vehicles where the toyota sera and the toyota cynos beta. There are very few of these cars floating about however the 5efhe engines often get imported.Not all 5efhe engines come with the ACIS manifold making them a little rare, Im suspecting they mostly came with the jdm version of the seo which is the Cynos. In fact the majority often don't.Here's some info on what the acis is and how it works: ACISIts good to see power figures straight from the factory but remember some of that power will be lost through engine age and transmission.Here is a link to acis manifolds for sale ACIS ManiHere is a link to 5efhe cams for sale 5efhe CamsHaving worked with the 4efe and the 5efe engines, the 5efe is a relatively cheap and hassle free upgrade if you are looking to keep the n/a roots of the starlet you are driving with some moderate gains to be had making the car more drivable and even all round. The 5efhe engine is totally possible although would cost a little more for one in good condition and even slots right into the engine bay, it is just the wiring issue that needs to be overcome, I believe the wiring could be very similar to wiring a 4efte, a decent wiring person who has experience with wiring an fte would be your best bet altho it may cost you a little for this service.The only 5efhe engines Ive seen for sale are relative high mileage between 70,000 - 100,000 miles. I always like to work with lower mileage engines.You may find that the availability of 5efe engines are also higher mileage too. 5efe engines can be had complete with ecu for around £300 - £350 depending on where u get one from (scrapyard or breaker) and 5efhe I would say from £350 - £450 onwards complete with ecu for a decent example again depending where u source from.There is a wealth of more in depth and interesting discussions on the net that nothing a good google search won't find if you are after more information on all mentioned above. Just giving you what I know in a nutshell.Hope this helpsJoz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mikey Jay Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 Jozopedia does it again Seriously though, very good write up and useful info.*gets hunting for 5efhe cams, rods and pistons* Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fogdoggydog Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 Great write up Jozman! You're an N/A Guru. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jozinobi Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 Cheers guys.Hope you find it useful.Joz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SiCaln Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 awesome work Joz man, it was worth making u a mod after all Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 sublime write up mate, copied and pasted with you as the auther Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zafar Posted June 2, 2007 Author Share Posted June 2, 2007 Excellent Info! Excellent links. Thanks Joz. Enzo i will post pics of both cars when i can get some time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Idrees Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 You're an N/A Guru.He certainly is! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tr1cky Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 any 1 fitted an inlet mani off a 5efhe to a 5efe/4efe?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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