If you lot think them alloys are crap then i seriously pity you..... And you obviously have no sense as to what quality is.... Im a bit of wheel whore and appreciate alloys more then what you lot do obviously considering some of the comments. I would never go on to some ones thread and write 'other wheels look shit' as i feel that is deeply offensive and immature and there are other ways to put comments like that rather then be dam right rude. I actually enjoyed being part of this forum but am starting to feel like its becoming full of kids and immature twats.