20th sounds good to me as im on a works night out on the 19th so that will be plenty time to recover , if every one is ok with this date thats when it will be, i think the same place as before ocean terminal as its shelterd from most of the elements..... exept wind a drive round the town maybe or somewhere further ?? sugestions welcome lets make this a big meet that will rival or better our neebours over the water lol