yeh for me its a 1st VTEC, i didnt expect soo much power in them, their underestimated, i recently jus paid £300 for the standard EG6 VTI alloys, jus for the VTI look, im lookin to refurbish them in champion white, as im respraying my car in bmw m5 purple, so its gonna have purple an white contrast, the car cost me £200, but worked out im gonna spend £1500 to make it look apart,