p15tle Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 hi guys im about to pick up my starlet on wedensday . i want to get a bootst controller fot it but...im not sure wich are good and how much they cost??or what is even involved in fitting? any help much appreciated cheers pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
glanza87 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Best oner in my mind is the blitz ibc-i colour. They retail for about £700 but can tune to 2.5bar boost! I can get them for £400 if you want one! They take a little time to wire in, not a massive job Quote Link to post Share on other sites
p15tle Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 Best oner in my mind is the blitz ibc-i colour. They retail for about £700 but can tune to 2.5bar boost! I can get them for £400 if you want one! They take a little time to wire in, not a massive job the glanza im getting will be running about 180-190bhp, so are they all as expensive? i dont plan to go any higher than 1.2bar on a hybrid a bit later on so are there cheaper options??thanx pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
glanza87 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Yeah HDI have just brought out a new one! Dunno what its called though mate. Bout £130 or summin. Will do just what your after! Whats your new starlet got to run that power just out of curiosity!? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pav Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 lol, the Ibc i-colour is a bit of overkill for a starlet as you are only running about 1 bar of boost but a very good one none the less. Even at £400 theyre very expensive, when you can have an HKS EVC, Greddy E-01 or Apexi AVCR brand new for that price.imo, for a starlet a very good option is the AVCR due to its ability to set the boost to any level in any gear. But with all these controllers, you need to be prepared to spend a good amount of time on the intial setup and tune of the boost levels.If you don't like complicated, the blitz sbc spec r is a good choice, simple to use, reliable, relatively affordable. You're looking at about £130-150 for one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
p15tle Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 Yeah HDI have just brought out a new one! Dunno what its called though mate. Bout £130 or summin. Will do just what your after! Whats your new starlet got to run that power just out of curiosity!? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
glanza87 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Yeah but for the real deal its the sbc i colour man lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
p15tle Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 lol, the Ibc i-colour is a bit of overkill for a starlet as you are only running about 1 bar of boost but a very good one none the less. Even at £400 theyre very expensive, when you can have an HKS EVC, Greddy E-01 or Apexi AVCR brand new for that price.imo, for a starlet a very good option is the AVCR due to its ability to set the boost to any level in any gear. But with all these controllers, you need to be prepared to spend a good amount of time on the intial setup and tune of the boost levels.If you don't like complicated, the blitz sbc spec r is a good choice, simple to use, reliable, relatively affordable. You're looking at about £130-150 for one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pav Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Yeah but for the real deal its the sbc i colour man lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Toby@ToyTuning.com Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 That looks ace buddy nice and neat job spot on.To add the AVCR is a very competent unit, full of features which won't always be used on a Starlet but well priced and they look grand. If your after something on a budget then consider they above or a used Greddy Profec B (the original one without a screen), these are basic, easy to use, can be installed in literally 10 mins and can be set up in 10 mins by yourself where as something like the AVCR needs to be done by a professional as they can be a little complicated.One thing I would advise is also purchasing an uprated actuator like our own ones or the HKS. The stock actuator can become week over time as the spring looses it's tensile strength, if it is worn then the EBC will never work to it's full potential. Boost which ever way you look at it is a mechanical process, things like EBC's and MBC's just aid the process. If the actuator is worn it won't be able to hold the boost as the wastegate will never be fully closed loosing vital pressure so the EBC won't have a hope in hell.Hope that helps,Toby Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Toby@ToyTuning.com Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 GReddy Profec B Spec II or HKS Dual SBC Spec R are the 2 I've used. There is zero point in spending 500 quid on a boost controller when you will only use 10% of its functionality!Did Greddy ever replace the solenoids on the B spec II? The original Profec without a screen had a huge chunky solenoid. They were harder to mount due to the reduced space in the engine bay so Greddy made the spec II which had a tiny solenoid, but, due to it's compactness it wasn't as reliable. We don't sell the Spec II anymore but interested to know if they cured this?Tobs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Toby@ToyTuning.com Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 My GReddy Spec 2 was excellent for running 1.2Bar on my T28 powered S13. Didn't overboost and brought it on smooth and strong.Yeah sounds like the fixed the solenoid issue in the end, defo worth considering the spec II as well then also well priced and full of features.T Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 HDi EBC-R, just fitted one to mine, excellent little unit, Dane (SPS) sells them What I was going to recommend Cheap and user friendly, contact Starlet_Bristol on here Quote Link to post Share on other sites
p15tle Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 That looks ace buddy nice and neat job spot on.To add the AVCR is a very competent unit, full of features which won't always be used on a Starlet but well priced and they look grand. If your after something on a budget then consider they above or a used Greddy Profec B (the original one without a screen), these are basic, easy to use, can be installed in literally 10 mins and can be set up in 10 mins by yourself where as something like the AVCR needs to be done by a professional as they can be a little complicated.One thing I would advise is also purchasing an uprated actuator like our own ones or the HKS. The stock actuator can become week over time as the spring looses it's tensile strength, if it is worn then the EBC will never work to it's full potential. Boost which ever way you look at it is a mechanical process, things like EBC's and MBC's just aid the process. If the actuator is worn it won't be able to hold the boost as the wastegate will never be fully closed loosing vital pressure so the EBC won't have a hope in hell.Hope that helps,Tobycheers toby, its got an hks actuator on it . im thinking of the HDI unit or would i be better with the greddy profec b (does that have a screen)?? id spend bout £200 max on it.help is much appricated thnxp15 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
p15tle Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 think that is the unit im going 2 go for, does the blitz one have a screen cuz id like that if it wernt to much dearer?all help massivly appreciatedcheers boyspete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlackRocket Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I've got a Blitz DSBC type R on mine and I love it, Its a Quality piece of kit for the cash!Looks swish too Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
p15tle Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 I've got a Blitz DSBC type R on mine and I love it, Its a Quality piece of kit for the cash!Looks swish too Steveu got a pic mate? dus it have a screen cuz thats wot i wnt...oh and how much are thy??cheers pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Toby@ToyTuning.com Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 As Ian said if your on a budget the HDi looks like a good bit of kit, you can also fnd the profec B older style on ebay quite often a few on there:http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trk...p;_nkw=profec+bhttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JDM-Trust-Greddy-Pro...A1%7C240%3A1318That's the one. If your after a screen for some fancy looks then something like the AVCR is a good buy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
p15tle Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 As Ian said if your on a budget the HDi looks like a good bit of kit, you can also fnd the profec B older style on ebay quite often a few on there:http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trk...p;_nkw=profec+bhttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JDM-Trust-Greddy-Pro...A1%7C240%3A1318That's the one. If your after a screen for some fancy looks then something like the AVCR is a good buy.thanx again mate ure a legend! think i like the look of the greddy profec spec 2, and that is simple 2 use aswell you dont need prrofessianl setup?pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Toby@ToyTuning.com Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 thanx again mate ure alegend! think i like the look of the greddy profec spec 2, and that is simple 2 use aswell you dont need prrofessianl setup?peteHi Pete, that is the Profec B (older one), the Profec B spec II is the newer smaller unit with a blue screen.Profec B:http://www.7msupra.com/pics/profecB02.jpgProfec B spec II:http://girlintheblackcar.com/images/300zx/300zxProfecB.jpgThere are many good EBC's out there I just have had good experience with them so can recommend them, as the others have said some really good other units out there. They are very easy to install and setup, just be a little careful. Where are you based? If local I'll do it for you. I also have full English instructions if you need with installation and setup guide.CheersT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Toby@ToyTuning.com Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Just spotted your in Scotland! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
p15tle Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 Hi Pete, that is the Profec B (older one), the Profec B spec II is the newer smaller unit with a blue screen.Profec B:http://www.7msupra.com/pics/profecB02.jpgProfec B spec II:http://girlintheblackcar.com/images/300zx/300zxProfecB.jpgThere are many good EBC's out there I just have had good experience with them so can recommend them, as the others have said some really good other units out there. They are very easy to install and setup, just be a little careful. Where are you based? If local I'll do it for you. I also have full English instructions if you need with installation and setup guide.CheersTdoes the old profec have a digital reading that comes up to show you what boost you are running? if not i think the spec 2 is for me and it looks lush!! yeah i aint 10 mins away haha im sure id b ok ive got couple m8s good with cars. cheers toby uve been top notch man thanxpete. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Toby@ToyTuning.com Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 No problem, it doesn't have a screen but you can obviously refer to your boost gauge unless you don't have one No worries though buddy..T Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dstillie Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Ive got a Manual Turbosmart one for sale brand new unused £30 delivered Quote Link to post Share on other sites
p15tle Posted January 13, 2009 Author Share Posted January 13, 2009 Ive got a Manual Turbosmart one for sale brand new unused £30 deliveredthanx for the offer man but ive made my mind up now..greddy profec spec 2 by the way super nice V mate! like it alot pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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