dale10ellis10 Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Now then chaps, Basicly after xmas im looking at making a few more performance upgrades to the glanza, obviously the turbo route is the key All im really asking is exactly what else im gonna need to run this setup..Click does it need to be mapped ect.. And am i doing the right thing, anyone with experiance with this kit .. bhp figures , dyno graphs welcome. Thanks Dale. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dale10ellis10 Posted December 10, 2009 Author Share Posted December 10, 2009 Any one? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ste91 Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 To make the most of it you'd probably want forged internals, uprated fuelling and management, and other things like a clutch to handle the power etc... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dale10ellis10 Posted December 10, 2009 Author Share Posted December 10, 2009 To make the most of it you'd probably want forged internals, uprated fuelling and management, and other things like a clutch to handle the power etc...Cheers for the reply, Right so do most people run this kit with forged internals? Or is it possible to run it without reliably?And also you say management?.. am i gonna need a new Ecu then yeah.Cheers Dale. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Russleh Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 you can run it safe at 1 bar as i recently found out. but if your going for the bhp then your gonna wanna forge it first. if your ecu is just a standard one you will need a new one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 You would need that kit, some sort of filter relocation, possibly injectors, depending what boost you plan on running.IIRC for 1 bar on a TD04 300cc injectors would be fine.I would get a decent Electronic Boost controller, a piggy back ECU and get it mapped too.Anything over 1.2 bar I would get forged internals and uprated headgasketNot cheap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Glanza_cl Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 very good kit there from Dave, yes it will need mapping how would you run it unmapped? perhaps do some research first. i'm sure you want power (most people do) but have you thought about what stress that will put on your un forged engine (i'm assuming it's unforged)... you need all the mods to support that turbo kit aswell remember.so you will need:Full exhaust atleast 2.5inchDecatfmicrelocated air filter off front of turboboost contrerengine managment (emanage blue at at minimum, an ultimate would be better though)that at a minimum and you will be able to run that turbo kit... but dont dive in head first for power, it will make your car a very unpleasant drive.. do the basic and work up to power get that sorted and with that kit you will be able to run around 200-220 at 0.9-1bar any more on an unforged engine and nd it will go pop! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dale10ellis10 Posted December 10, 2009 Author Share Posted December 10, 2009 You would need that kit, some sort of filter relocation, possibly injectors, depending what boost you plan on running.IIRC for 1 bar on a TD04 300cc injectors would be fine.I would get a decent Electronic Boost controller, a piggy back ECU and get it mapped too.Anything over 1.2 bar I would get forged internals and uprated headgasketNot cheap.Ok soo..Need a boost controller, need a ecu, got the filter relocation kit and got a FMIC I wouldnt be straying over 1 bar i dont think.Is this really the best option for me? or wouldi be better off running a hybrid Ct9 or similarDale. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 If you are keeping the oem ECU, as long as you keep the boost under factory settings and get a fuel pressure regulatorthen get the fueling sorted it should be ok.But if i was you the first thing id buy is a ECU thats what have i just done and what a big diffrence that has made, my V is standard apart from airfilter exhaust system i pluged my BLITZ ECU in lastnight for Tpark and it was like i had jumped into a diiffrent car the power increase was unreal lol and in my optiontd04 are laggy and also shorten the life span of your engine headgaskit ect but everyone has diffrent there own opinioncheers micky Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dale10ellis10 Posted December 10, 2009 Author Share Posted December 10, 2009 If you are keeping the oem ECU, as long as you keep the boost under factory settings and get a fuel pressure regulatorthen get the fueling sorted it should be ok.But if i was you the first thing id buy is a ECU thats what have i just done and what a big diffrence that has made, my V is standard apart from airfilter exhaust system i pluged my BLITZ ECU in lastnight for Tpark and it was like i had jumped into a diiffrent car the power increase was unreal lol and in my optiontd04 are laggy and also shorten the life span of your engine headgaskit ect but everyone has diffrent there own opinioncheers mickySo you reccomend a Blitz ECU first of all, and then maybe stay away from the tdo4Few questions , are they plug and play and how much would i be expecting to pay?Thanks Dale. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 So you reccomend a Blitz ECU first of all, and then maybe stay away from the tdo4Few questions , are they plug and play and how much would i be expecting to pay?Thanks Dale.Yes they are plug and play mate the one i have just got, is mapped for bar but with me only boosting at 0.8/0.7fueling is ok...i paid £400 for my BLITZ ECU but its the best mod for theys cars..When i had my old glanza i got it to 197bhp with the standard ct9b turbo and that was all down to the apexi power fc ECU one of the best ECU,S for starlets if i was you thats one of the fists things id get out of the way then you can start from there ect Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dale10ellis10 Posted December 10, 2009 Author Share Posted December 10, 2009 Yes they are plug and play mate the one i have just got, is mapped for bar but with me only boosting at 0.8/0.7fueling is ok...i paid £400 for my BLITZ ECU but its the best mod for theys cars..When i had my old glanza i got it to 197bhp with the standard ct9b turbo and that was all down to the apexi power fc ECU one of the best ECU,S for starlets if i was you thats one of the fists things id get out of the way then you can start from there ect Cheers mate, theyre expensive .. well more than i thoughtId be happy with 197 like definatly .. Obviously with other mods ect..Any particular place you can get the ecu's from ? Dale Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dale10ellis10 Posted December 10, 2009 Author Share Posted December 10, 2009 Cheers mate, theyre expensive .. well more than i thoughtId be happy with 197 like definatly .. Obviously with other mods ect..Any particular place you can get the ecu's from ? Dale Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dale10ellis10 Posted December 10, 2009 Author Share Posted December 10, 2009 Cheers mate, theyre expensive .. well more than i thoughtId be happy with 197 like definatly .. Obviously with other mods ect..Any particular place you can get the ecu's from ? Dale Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dale10ellis10 Posted December 10, 2009 Author Share Posted December 10, 2009 Id wish this computer would piss off ^ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 lol its the site mate its just done it to me anyway most ECU,S for starlets are discontinued you are better off geting one on here..And i dont think you will get an ECU for lets than £400 unless you got a piggy back Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StarletRick Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 if you want 200hp. why are you wasting your money on a big turbo kit? you can hit that with the stock turbo if its well mapped and supported. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ToyotaTech15 Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 If you are looking for a decent power figure maybe just over the 200 mark but not forging it would just go with a hybrid with a plug and play ecu,That turbo kit there is for forged engines looking for alot more power, you could get a very quick car still on stock internalsCheck out Bildo's build thread he has a gt-spec hybrid which is an animal now its been mapeed etcGary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dale10ellis10 Posted December 10, 2009 Author Share Posted December 10, 2009 Thanks alot lads ^^ Yeah I've realised I'm looking at too big of a turbo for my needs, like you lot say I think I'm alot better off going for a hybrid ct9 and a zcisco manifold, actuator and ecu of some sort.I was unsure of what gains and figures I could see from what turbo ect..Gonna have a good look at a few build threads like you say once I get home and don't have to use my iPhone.Great advise as usual everyone Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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