Guest cheshireglanza Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Has some off you no i pick my new glanza up on sat but i want to go forged but would like to have a go with help at building a forged engine for it,are the bits down below all i need Parts,Wiesco 75mm pistons size im going for Scat forged rodsAthena 1.4mm headgasketARP Main boltsARP headboltsADL waterpumpToyota oil pump new gaskets and oil sealsADL cam belt kitNew beltsMachine work;Block to be re-bored to take 75mm pistonsBlock honedhead skimmedlighten standard flywheelall chemically cleaned and re-painted.Crank to be polishedHead will be fully ported and polishedvalves re-seatedvalve stem seals replacedcleaned up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
durmz Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 engine bearings dude Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james@cjperformance Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 i also think you need to have the block notched to fit scat rods Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cheshireglanza Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 ^^ cheers guys Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GTnomez Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Block deckedRotating Mass balanced Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 block decked is a must if using a metal gasket...acl bearings...also, i wouldnt bother lightening the stock flywheel... wud be more expensive, JC project ot fidanza can be had for £250-300bar and they will be loads lighter... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scot-ish Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 i agree, i dont think lightening a standard flywheel is safe, i dont care how many people have done it, and have yet to experience a problem, it only takes one time, the rpm it turns at, the acceleration and force if it wer to become damged, it will split you in half.if your having so much work done, i would also have the head ported. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rorenapier Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 And do you really think these manufacturers forge there own material to make lightened flywheels?No they dont, they will use genuine parts and have it tested like anybody that has a brain would do.As for the above, most folk have it covered BUT you dont need to balance the rotating mass if you dont have the cash. Will only really help you if reving higher than usual all the time, to keep it smoother.No issues here after 30k on mine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
durmz Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 30k, wow, thats really impressive, shows if done right will last Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scot-ish Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 And do you really think these manufacturers forge there own material to make lightened flywheels?No they dont, they will use genuine parts and have it tested like anybody that has a brain would do.they actually use a different material, which has a higher tensile strength, this being able to cope with the stresses upon them, but with a total mass less than that of the standard.im not arguing about it either, there are plenty of examples, with "lightened" flywheels failing. have a search, yes they may also be plenty, with them not failing, but why take the chance for the sake of £100?everybody is entitled to there own opinion on it. mine has been said. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rorenapier Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 So your telling me they will have them brand new flywheels cast/forged to suit?? Seriusly they wont.For the price of them, they wont make profit on themDo you really think the STD flywheel is incabable of having the stresses upon it when lightened, there has to be a huge saftey margin(due to the reasons above, you pointed out) before it will go into production.Your opinion is your opinion, but ill stand by mine and say the lightened flywheels on the market are manufactured from STD ones, that have been crack tested and balanced.Toyota wouldnt use kek materials would they.No arguement though its mearley opinions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scot-ish Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 as soon as you machine it, you change the properties, and the way it deals wth stresses.im sure cusco and fidanza both make there own.here is asomething from the fidanza website2. WHY DO YOU OFFER BOTH STEEL AND ALUMINUM FLYWHEELS? – Our steel flywheels are designed to be some the strongest flywheels on the market. They are designed to be used where extreme strength is the issue and not increased performance. Some examples of this would be in rock crawling vehicles and sand rails. Our aluminum flywheels are also very strong and will give a tremendous boost in performance without affecting driveability.they are able to offer steel and aluminium, as the design there own.here is something from Tm-developmentsCusco Super Light Chromoly Fly Wheel for the EP82 or EP91 Starlet with the 4E-FTE.The weight of the flywheel is 4.1kg, 215mm in diameter and has 21 teeth. This is a great upgrade for your Starlet's stock flywheel. This is what is said about the Cusco SuperLight Chromoly Fly Wheel; " Not just light, the cutting edge design enables even rotation even from the low revs. The lightness enables swift revs up or down. The chromoly is precision machined by CNC machinery. The revs go up and down swiftly for quicker gear shifts. Faster times gained on 0-60m Acceleration runs and mid range gearim sure you know what chromoly is?? if not, its just steel, which contains a higher count of carbon within it( contains chromium and molybednun). this increases its strength, which enables them to make them lightered, yet still retain the same factor of safety, the heavier, standard flywheel acheives.i believe the standard one is cast steel.have a look here, they also explain it on RHDjapan, in the sales pitch, stated, its made, not recut from a standard one.http://www.rhdjapan.com/kameari-light-weig...a-58300?nflag=1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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