The Toffinator Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Just on a random note, i know the standard MAP sensor reads to 1.2 bar, so the ecus cant fuel above this, If i fitted an uprated sensor, would the ecu continue fuelling?I dont see why not, i dont think it would stop fueling once it goes above 1.2 bar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 What you wanting to go above 1.2bar on? ct9? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Toffinator Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 No micky its just out of interest, ie if i wanted to go tf035 or something with a thicker headgasket and stuff, will the ks rom read above 1.2. Wouldnt even dream of more than 1.2 out of the shitty ct9! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
starletburkie Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 sure nobody knows what there mapped for like Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Ahh right i see I dont see why not like considering the Ks Rom can go above 1.2bar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Toffinator Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 God knows mate, but surely with the fuel tables it will fuel what it needs for the amount of boost it sees? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
starletburkie Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 sure any of them can go above 1.2bar but how do ya know it will fuel it? thats your problem with them plug and plays! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Yeah man! best bet would be to by a wideband kit aswell as get it all set up on the Rollers etc FPR pump and what have ya Quote Link to post Share on other sites
starletburkie Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 thats it but there all set up for stock comp engines and timing maps for certain turbos Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 It says on the KS Rom website starletbukie but it would be best to get everything checked etc to be on the safe side Quote Link to post Share on other sites
starletburkie Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 what turbo does it say etc? be worth a try anyways Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 (edited) Yeah it sure would Also some people run forged engines on the stock ecu with different compression to stock without a problem Would be nice to see what use Plug and play boys can get out of these ecus considering not many people have tried them for bigish power yet so many people say they are shit without realy trying to see what they are capable of!!! Edited November 4, 2012 by micky boy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Broony Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Just turn it up Nah i think its more of the unknown and the fact its safer to use a tried method of emb etc than pay for time on the rollers to get it set up for probs not much more gain or to find out it wont go much further!I defo think it would be cool to see how far they can go Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Cant see it costing the earth to go on the rollers just to sort fueling out its not as if they would be going through the tables of the ecu etcAnd yeah to get a much better map its always going to be best to go standalone or piggyback im just intreaged to see what power these P&p's can cope with Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gtstu Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 if a different map sensor was fitted it would probably need scaling to read higher pressures like standalones do. so i cant see how it would work with these ecus. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Amjad Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I'm also curious..Not that I'd run that myself but it'd be interesting to see the outcome. If I was even to run forged territory boost I'd go standalone (assuming I wouldn't be changing the turbo setup anytime soon) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Broony Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 its like £60 for power runs :*( Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdamB Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 if a different map sensor was fitted it would probably need scaling to read higher pressures like standalones do. so i cant see how it would work with these ecus.x2, I highly doubt it would be very accurate when getting to the map sensors limits. The ecu is likely to be scaled as an exact copy of the standard unit. So won't be possible to swap to a 3 bar map sensor and expect it to read it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 x2, I highly doubt it would be very accurate when getting to the map sensors limits. The ecu is likely to be scaled as an exact copy of the standard unit. So won't be possible to swap to a 3 bar map sensor and expect it to read it.See i did think this tooYou would of thought they would be able to considering its says on the KS Rom'S website its capable of over .1.2bar running a TD04 if i remember rightly!How true that is i do not know!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdamB Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) It may well be able to, but you would have to find out what map sensor it is that it is able to read. As we know these plug and plays are mapped to different turbo's, setups etc, so on a general I would say it wouldn't be safe to run anything past the stock map sensors limits.It could also depend on what they used as "load", they may have used MAP as load, or RPM as load. That no one will probably ever know. Edited November 5, 2012 by AdamB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Toffinator Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 What im getting at here is say i fitted a Gtfour celica map sensor (Reads to 1.8bar) and they dont need scaling, Will the ecu continue to fuel it as how i see it working the ecu will fuel what it needs ie seeing more pressure than 1.2 bar.And yeh of course it will need setting up, i will be buying a Wideband and possibly FPR to see what sort of figures im getting, try and get a few runs on a dyno too.Im only considering it on say a small garret or similiar (WEPR GT-FS kit or etc), As these modern turbos run relatively high boost to the older designs off turbos.Im very interested in seeing what the ecu is capable of. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdamB Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Only one way to find out mate and thats to try it. But I would be very cautious. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Toffinator Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 Yep your right mate, and yeh if i go that route it will be very carefully done! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
corofin12345 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 weejohn ran a blitz access ecu @ 1.4bar on a tdo4.. but he had other fueling mods Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 ^^Thats good to know Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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