Tha Dragon Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Hi there guy's was wondering just got a nice mod from a friend of mine was looking for advice if it's ok and what does it do what or the goods and bads about it and if it is easy to install in my Glanza.here is a picture of it. in my older topics i put all the mods that my car has so you guys can get an idea of what i already have and if this ain't gonna bust something up or not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StuDoc 72 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Would this work with distributor ignition? May only be coil on plug. Regardless I think there may be a considerable amount of work involved and anything that messes with your ignition is it risk of damaging the engine. Saying that installed correctly with a good map on EMU or better It would be a good addition id reckon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tha Dragon Posted March 15, 2013 Author Share Posted March 15, 2013 So your saying a need a piggyback and or stand alone to use this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StuDoc 72 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 No. Im not 100% sure on whether it would even work with coil and distributor. If it does then Im saying it would be far safer running it with piggy back or stand alone as you would want to have it mapped to be safe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tha Dragon Posted March 15, 2013 Author Share Posted March 15, 2013 Cause i already have a MSD coil but i want to do it corecctly so that's why i want some advice about it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turbo Grant Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 It's will make a small differnce. But not alot without proper control of ignition timing and fueling. Will just produce a stonger spark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tha Dragon Posted March 15, 2013 Author Share Posted March 15, 2013 So it won't do harm on my engine with stoch ECU? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turbo Grant Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Won't do no harm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tha Dragon Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 I finally had the chance to work on my car and do some upgrades and fine tuning fixing couple of things but i was wondering isn't there someone the forum who hasi already installed an msd component on there car and that they can share the info with us and or me, cause i tried to install it like it is basically but i'm still doubting about 1 or 2 of the wires. Does anybody know how 2 install it on our cars, do you know something about it turbo Grant? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turbo Grant Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 You having problems with the trigger pick up? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tha Dragon Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 (edited) You having problems with the trigger pick up? I was confused about the white wire but i was doing some research and i found this so i think i'm on the right path. Cause i have on that says put the "Red wire" to "Original Coil + wire" and nothing else so i was thinking what do i need to do with the "White wire" that is left. and about the "Original Coil - wire" But now i found this pic i think i have the solution for my problem. Edited August 8, 2013 by Tha Dragon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turbo Grant Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Always the case. The solution is staring you in the face Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tha Dragon Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 Just got home went thru the wires connected them like it is showed on the picture but it doesn't start and as soon as I take them all off the car starts perfectly, now I'm really stuck with it can you guys give me some advice on what 2 do?I have the MSD SCI with the msd blaster ss coil can you guys send me a wire diagram or some on how 2 connect the wires together so my car can start? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
enzo_e492901 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 (edited) This is how I did mine. Although mine was the MSD Digital 6A, it looks to wire in the same as yours. Gavin Edited August 9, 2013 by enzo_e492901 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tha Dragon Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 (edited) Thanks for the info, isn't there anyone else that can help me out here really wanna use this the msd on my car. So in your wire diagram it look the same enzo_e492901 i'm a noob in wire diagram but please help me out here Edited August 9, 2013 by Tha Dragon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
enzo_e492901 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 With standard glanza wiring in place you need to... 1. Remove the standard coil + wire and in it's place on the coil connect the MSD Orange wire.2. Connect the MSD Red wire to the wire you took off the coil in step 1.3. Remove the standard coil - wire and in it's place on the coil connect the MSD Black Wire.4. Connect the MSD White wire to the wire you took off the coil in step 3.5. Connect the thick MSD Red wire to the battery + terminal.6. Connect the thick MSD Black wire to the battery - terminal. Magnetic pickup wires are not used on the Starlet/Glanza (MSD Green and Violet wires) Gavin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tha Dragon Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 Thanks i did it the same way yesterday but i'm going to try it again to day, i'll try sending pictures so you can c what i did and i'll send a video so u can hear what my engine does, cause it try to start but when u hear it does it turns back off so i don't know what else to do right now but as soon as i get hoem i'll try it out. If there is someone else that know another way or some else to do please let me know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
enzo_e492901 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 From what you say about it kind of starting then cutting out I know what the problem is. You need an MSD tach adaptor to fool the igniter into thinking it's fired a coil so it sends the feedback signal back to the ECU. MSD part number 8910 or 8910EIS. If you get 8910EIS it can be wired both ways. Wired like this. Once again the Magnetic pickup wires are not used on the Starlet/Glanza (MSD Green and Violet wires) Gavin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tha Dragon Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 So from what info i got i need to connect the wires to the "Tach Adapter" and then it would work ok? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
enzo_e492901 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Connect it up like this... With standard glanza wiring in place you need to... 1. Remove the standard coil + wire and in it's place on the coil connect the MSD Orange wire.2. Connect the MSD Red wire to the wire you took off the coil in step 1.3. Remove the standard coil - wire and in it's place on the coil connect the MSD Black Wire.4. Connect the MSD White wire to the wire you took off the coil in step 3.5. Connect the thick MSD Red wire to the battery + terminal.6. Connect the thick MSD Black wire to the battery - terminal. Magnetic pickup wires are not used on the Starlet/Glanza (MSD Green and Violet wires) Gavin Then don't touch the connections you have already made above and connect the following to them... 1. Connect the MSD Tach Adaptor Red wire with the MSD Ignition Red wire.2. Connect the MSD Tach Adaptor White wire with the MSD Ignition White wire. Then it should work. Gavin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tha Dragon Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 Ok thanks Gavin, As soon as i'm home and gonna connect them back test it again and i'll look around for the "Tach Adapter" but i'll let you know as soon as i get it sorted out. Thanks Gavin Thanks UKstarletowners Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Xpect Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 May I ask, what does this do? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
enzo_e492901 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 They are supposed to produce hotter, stronger sparks and multiple sparks in the same firing under 3,000 RPM. The basic units like this don't modify spark timing, dwell or anything like that. Gavin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stockrod Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Just had a look at wiring my msd 6a and blaster coil. Now I'm aware as to the orange & black wires on the msd 6a go to the blaster coil. But in the info above i cannot make sense as to where to connect the white and red wire in the msd 6a as the Glanza doesn't use a coil so i haven't removed any wires in the loom to connect the red & white wires within the msd 6a? So how are we ment to connect the white & red wire in the msd 6a the way that it says above connect to the original coil wire's? I know we have a connection with 2 wires going to the original ignition amplifier on the bulk head.Also there is a red & white wire in the wiring loom that connects to the distributor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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