Yeah I know about the bits of pipe and that off ebay, but when you add up the cost of all the bits of pipe it comes to a fair bit, so I thought it might be cheaper to just have a one-piece pipe. Like Rob's is what I had in mind, but not with drainpipe Rich's setup looks easier though, just the reducer, a little bit of straight, and a 45 degree bend, and no need to move the rad. Rich, what filter is that on there?