It's about confidence really, if you treat it like its a really important part you'll most likely cock it up, treat it like any other part, and spend good time preparing it, you should get a half decent finish. Oh hai! I see, I do keep an eye out for you're 'let as I go through Regis every few weeks, but I never see it! Modifying the bars was easy, officially you need a set with a SRA (short roof adaptor) that clamps the rear one under the door but extends rearward,but as my budget didn't allow for this I took a punt of some under door clamping ones. I had the cut the rear clamps down about 15-20mm otherwise they would have stuck out, you'll also need to push the rear window rubber back to allow the clamp to seat properly, I also cut the bars down as they were about a good 10 inches too long. It's tough to explain, but when I remove them next I'll take a pic for you mate. Thanks for the imput, but I think you misunderstand the reasoning for the bars, if I didn't need to carry my bike on the roof, I wouldn't have bought roof bars. It's as simple as that, and as this is my daily and was bought with the Glanza body conversion already fitted I have no interest in changing it back purely because it makes no difference to me, if I'm totally honest, I wish this was a stock sr (the car is an sr underneath) but the amount of time and effort that would be required to convert it back to sr spec wouldn't outweigh the benefits.And I will most likely remove the bars when not using them when I have fitted my roof carriers.