@jezza, no mate didnt have till modify them at all, it's jus turned upside down and put through the bottom cut out in the toms bumper and it works perfect mate. i'll try and get a couple of pic's over the weekend and pm them till you to show you what i mean. you kept them pics quiet lol. its nice to look back and see what the car was like shiney, but i'm glad i went matt. The night that i drove the car home from trev's that japanese girl scared the poop clean out of me, thought the car was possed at one point lol. thanks for puttin them pics up jay. will go into my wee album now. Alan