ste - wana explain where exactly i need to step back here?? bearing in mind i'm the one that TRIED to talk to Tim only a matter of days ago about the situation and have tried to calm him down by explaining repeatedly that it was NOT a personal attack from Geo, simply a forum management based decision. no one has said that Tim doesnt offer you guys in the midlands a port of call, the point on page two of this thread has been that the repsonse he gave since talking to Geo, by HIS OWN ADMISSION, may not have been the most mature of repsonses, and as such a number of bridges may have been burnt for no good reason, when in April he could have applied like anyone else. there was no need for this thread to go the way it did, and i believe, to Tim's credit, that he has realised that. so please, i will sit back, fold my arms, and anxiously await your reply. come tell me where i need to back off please. Phil.