VFR nnnnnnnicee!!! However, this is where i fall out with u! Jap bikes sound better than Vtwins?? Im sorry, pardon me, wot, exsqueeze me, baking powder??? My dad had a Kwak ZX7R, follwed by a Buell, then an Aprilia Tuono w/ aquapovic exhaust system and now a Harley and there is NO WAY ON THIS GREEN EARTH THAT THE KWAK SOUNDED BETTER!!!!!!!! VTWINS ALL THE WAY i'm afraid! "Twins sound poo"...wots wrong wit u richard scutchings!!!!! Phil.