Noel how can u neverhave heard of fleetwood??!! ;) Its not very far north of Liverpool, only a matter of miles, Toymota may know an exact figure. Ok...apparently a return fare Larne - Fleetwood with a car and 2 people is £200 ISH!!!! I say ISH as the girl i spoke to from P&O ferries wasnt quite sure at the time but leave it with me i can find out this week. Try the Via Michelin website dude, Peterborough from Liverpool is about 200miles or about 3hrs so not really that bad. The next question then is when we would head out?? If we left on thursady where would we stay on the thursday night, or do we leave early friday. Also, as far as i know there's an overnight boat but again i'll find out this week for definate, the P&O terminal is 5mins from my house. The overnight one leavin on thursday night would be good, if we got in early friday we couyld be at the show for maybe early afternoon. @Geo, will the UKSC be there from the friday until the sunday or just saturday?? This would determine when we would head over. The other question then is the return journey, i suppose we'd leave probably sundy afternoon sometime and try and catch an overnight boat back to get back for monday mornin. I'll see wot info and figures i can find out this week for u NI guys. Phil.