Just seen this thread, god what have i missed Shelly pointed it out to me because someone PM'd her off my account to lock the thread ..... why the fuk would i want to lock i thread i havent argued in.....yet?? At the end of the day a car is a piece of metal and rubber etc and its obviously going to have a kicking once in its life. I used to rag the shit out of mine all the time (thats why im where i am today i suppose but i dont regret it at all ;) ) ....seriously you really dont know what my car has been through, alot worse than that video i can tell you and it has NEVER let me down ONCE It his car and if he wants to have a bit of fun in it whether it be drifting on crates or just pure racing the guts out of it let him do it ;) Everyone has thier own opinions about how a car should be treated but it is just a CAR!!!!