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My Tuning Developments Forged NIGHTMARE and The End of the GT
Starbuck replied to Starbuck's topic in Negative Feedback
They don't, but I needed to get it out there rather than sit on it. As for sides. Not saying you do. Before my engine issues i did nothing but recommend TD for work, advice etc you know how it is.- 96 replies
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My Tuning Developments Forged NIGHTMARE and The End of the GT
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The car was stored at your premises as the engine and parts etc were taken to your machinists for checking and left there according to the FB replies for 5 months before u collected them to be put in the car and brought back to me. The delays between were a case of waiting for the engine to be removed, then for the machinists to do the checking and then the 'machinists' closed and waiting for your responses whilst we tried to work something out between us and waiting on the claim process. You collected the car and used it for 6 months before reporting another issue. That is correct. Dec-Feb/April running in period. March checked and greenlighted for proper use. Returned with issues after japfest May. As stated in original post. I won’t get into an online argument, just putting our view across which is very often ignored and not considered. Which is why this thread was left open, as is the case for any feedback thread. When the car first returned it had excessive play in the turbo, as agreed we kept hold of the car and proceeded to strip it down, finding the turbo to be damaged along with other parts. The Turbo (you supplied) grinding on the housing causing the metal on metal noise was the reason I took it back to you. It was from that you found the cause to the first demise. This rocker cover was not made, nor supplied by us That is correct and as stated by yourself at the time was an 'oversight' that it didnt get fully checked. Due to this, as mentioned, we both agreed that a second one be sourced and checked throughly by yourselves before fitment. maintenance and usage are things we cannot do anything about.... it's a brand new engine. Tell me what maintenance it would need in the 2000miles it did before coming back? Oil change in another 1k.... So what else. As for usage other than using it as a forged engine should be used I don't know what else you could be pointing towards. What u provided wasn't fit for purpose and has never lived Upto the claims.- 96 replies
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My Tuning Developments Forged NIGHTMARE and The End of the GT
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Understandable. You've been close with them for ages, taking the S14 there for work etc.- 96 replies
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My Tuning Developments Forged NIGHTMARE and The End of the GT
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Cheers for comments people. The good feedback was why I used them in the first place all those years ago. But since mine went in for forging the negs have slowly been creeping up. My personal opinion as for the reason to this is their reluctance to take people on to work on the cars and as the workload has increased so has the issues.- 96 replies
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added to list. cheers
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My Tuning Developments Forged NIGHTMARE and The End of the GT
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It is a shame. I wanted to be one of the few/many owners running around in a TD Forged engine with no issues for quite a few years as some are. Unfortunatly not the case for me and it ruined my love for it, hence the decision to break/strip. I couldnt justify not buying a second car as the lack of another car whilst the GT was away for months on end was crippling the family and causing a lot of stress.- 96 replies
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PMd but Provo sold atm
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Im not a vocal person when it comes to car issues and problems with companies and i have kept this one off the forum since the start almost 2.5years ago. But its been going on almost that long with the GT only coming back to me mid march 14. Now its time to get it off my chest and out on the www as its been chewing me up for a while. From Lover to hater (English scholars please excuse grammatical errors etc. lol) Well the car is being broken and my Starlet ownership has ceased (for the time being maybe). See all my MODs breaking? This is why. Some will know the long story behind my reason why and some won’t. Below is the reason why, should you wish to read it. After the first Dave Burwash meet my car began playing up and causing me issues. I took it to TD like I did with most of my issues, as I was happy with their service and help and had taken my car there since I had owned it. After being told the engine was worn and that was the issue I decided to go forge and TD04. This initial build took 4 months to complete and was 3 months over the initial quoted time of completion. Just over a week later (After having the car back) the engine started making noises and subsequently the car was returned to Tuning Developments for inspection to find the issue. I was then informed after a quick inspection that the engine had been damaged (Not to mention the fucked TD04 that was grinding the casing) and that they would need to keep it for a full inspection. About two weeks later it turned out that the engine hadn’t been cleaned/inspected properly (Due to an oversight) before being put back together and because of this, contaminants had been dragged through the engine causing damage. Due to this Tuning Developments under their warranty (6months) repaired the engine free of charge. No hassle, brilliant I thought. Another 4 months pass (again greatly over their quoted time for the build, a recurring theme for many owners waiting for a build) during this time I have to take public transport at my cost and try and arrange lifts to get to work (at great stress), all the time chasing TD for updates as little information was being passed back to me regarding the progress of the build (Another recurring theme among those getting work done by TD, im sure they’ll be some heads nodding in agreement). I eventually get the car back in December 2012 and told to come back after 1000miles for a check up to make sure everything is fine. With the Christmas period and associated weather the 1000miles took till March to do, well 1200 by the time I got it to them. Including all the necessary oil changes (Helped by DeanRW) to their running in sheet order. I then took the car back them to check over and the car got the green light that everything was working fine and the MAP was good. Great, time for boost and at last being able to use the GT properly. Unfortunately 2 months later in May 2013, just after JapFest, the engine started making the same noises it did previously. After a call to TD I was advised to stop driving and arrange for the car to be low loaded to them. Two weeks later (June) at a cost to me of £100 the car was taken back to them to be inspected. Luckily for me, of so I thought, the car was just within its new warranty period from the last rebuild. A couple of weeks later I was told by them that they had found “contaminants” in the oil (again) and that the engine would need to be removed and stripped down to be inspected by themselves (again). I was never fully told what these ‘contaminants’ were or shown images, I was just told the oil was very dark and metally. After 2 months, again having to sort my own transport out at my cost, I took the decision that when the car was fixed I would sell it as I had lost faith in it due the issues. I also took the decision to purchase another car because the lack of one was crippling me and having an impact on family life, especially with 2 children and school runs etc Three months pass and after numerous messages through Facebook and calls and, I am eventually told that again the engine has been damaged by “contaminants”, not by machining issues according to their machinist (as it would have gone quicker if it was...apparently), and would require a rebuild. At that point I make TD aware of my intentions to sell the car upon getting it back and I am asked by TD what I would like to do in regards to the car. I told TD that as I was selling the car that it would be quicker if we came to amicable arrangement where they would keep the engine and we come to an agreement on a partial refund of the original cost of the engine build which would save them their labour time and cut the amount of time it would take for me to get the car back and allow me to start selling parts off of the car quicker. I told them I wasn’t prepared to wait another 4 months for a build hence why this was my preferred option. I left this with them and after a while TD got back to me and said that they would not be prepared to do that as in their eyes they would be admitting fault for the engine issue..... How else did the crap get in the engine?? Not from the oil changes, that’s for certain. So therefore must have been in the engine already..... They came back to me and said that they would be prepared to build the engine for free, labour wise, if I was to pay for the parts to fix it and that their maybe another option. Not the answer I was hoping for, as I don’t expect to have to pay for anything considering a new engine is meant to last a lot longer than 3500 miles. Having told me when I took the car in that I was lucky that the car didn’t go bang and that bringing it to them when I did would have saved any major damage I thought I would entertain the possibility of spending a couple of hundred pounds on parts and have the engine fixed which I could then sell on as intended. I got back to them after a week and told them that I wanted a complete breakdown of everything the rebuild would need this time. At this point in time I was almost at the point of giving up as I just wanted to get the car back and not have this hanging over my head like a tonne weight. After another week or so I had a call from TD where I was told that the cost in parts for the rebuild would near enough negate the sale cost of the engine. This was far more than I had been led to believe and meant in layman’s terms it wasn’t worth doing at all. The remaining option that was offered to me was a £100 refund of the cost of the low loader to get the car to them, £100 for the cost of the low loader back and their time to part strip the car ready for selling. In other words just forget about the £2300 cost of the build. (I never took the offer hoping for a better one, which never came.........) Having reached a stalemate situation with them I decided to claim (Section75 of the Consumer Credit Act) through my credit card the total costs of the engine rebuild and that is where I am at the moment. After that I shall be more than likely going to put a claim in thru the Small Claims Court as well. TD have offered no full explanation on the ‘contaminants’ found in the engine and have made no real effort in coming to an amicable solution to this sorry mess. In my opinion (and this is just speculation) it was never fully cleaned from the original problem and some parts were reused which perhaps shouldn’t have been, leading to the speedy ruining of the second forged engine. This experience has soured what was a good TD car relationship and was the ‘nail in the coffin’ of what was meant to be a good few years of fun forgedness but instead ended up being about 2000miles of fun and a massive hole in my pocket. ) A great example of a TD bombproof engine......not. So there you are ‘My Story’ take from it what you will. Some people may have a good experience (Ive put bets on who will reply.. lol) and some may not. This was my experience. They say lightening doesn’t strike twice, but in this case it did and I certainly won’t be recommending them anytime soon and in doing so joining an ever growing list of unhappy customers on here, driftworks and gtroc etc etc
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Item For Sale: Magnecor Leads Clip type Item Condition & Description: Good condition Inc king lead Price: 58 posted plus fees Pictures: Payment & Shipping Details: Royal mail. Payment by paypal
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My FMIC is on the sales thread (The one you enquired about previously) It is suited to rotated TD04 setups and is still mounted to the car at the moment so has the brackets etc HDI Large Core with HDI pipework and custom pipework for the short route to turbo. All it needs is a some paint stripping to remove the paint off the core or respraying black for a stealth look. Cash Waiting? Then look no further, unless of course, if its less than the asking price......
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^^^^^ yes thats the one. A big blue tongue too!!
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The wiring as mentioned above isnt car specific and by following the correct wiring guide for your car can be spliced into the ECU harness. I did this to mine.
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OOOOOOOooooooo yes please. Id love a GALANZA. Pm coming your way. Shame......you spent so long building this to see it go......
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41 Days to Japfest!, what you got to do?
Starbuck replied to Starlet-Joshy's topic in Lifestyle General
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For Sale - Toyota Starlet Celica Twinpot Brake Upgrade
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Did it not come with any wiring at all?
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For Sale - Toyota Starlet Celica Twinpot Brake Upgrade
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For Sale - Toyota Starlet Celica Twinpot Brake Upgrade Item Condition & Description: The Calipers will need a refurb. Discs are new and will need a bit of rust removal of the faces as shown. The discs I believe are from the Astra 1.7D range and have been machined to fit my GT. The diameter was reduced and the inner face was also reduced to negate the use of spacers and be a direct fit. I had a spigot ring made to fit to reduce the bore to 54.1 however this might not suit every GT and can be removed to fit another size if needed. Shorty will be along soon to update the post a little as he supplied me with the kit and knows more about it and fitment etc Price: £ 165 +4% fees or GIFT. Posted. Pictures:bfn Payment & Shipping Details: PAYPAL. Shipped via parcel force or courier.
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For Sale - Genuine Cusco Starlet BMCS
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For Sale - HDI FMIC TD04 Suited - The Best Core
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For Sale - Greddy Type S BOV Purple HTF
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