Vturbo Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 right, im looking to uprade from my td04 setup, currently running 281hp, want to crack 300+ have been doing a bit of research and have pretty much decided on a td05 of sorts. does anyone have any experience with a billet wheel td05 20g? anyone want to share their experiences on the subject? cheers! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 (edited) A 20g on a 1.3 will be laggy as it gets really.A 16g will crack 300bhpA VF24 is the best of both worlds, ie will do 300 and isnt much more laggy than a td04.Theres a vf22 on here for sale atm, thats about the biggest VF you can get, and its a ceramic BB Edited October 10, 2016 by daniel_g Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vturbo Posted October 10, 2016 Author Share Posted October 10, 2016 how laggy are we talking on a 20g? vf is also a good choice, a garret of sorts has crossed my mind too. think a gt28 might be a bit overkill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I had either an 18g or a 20g on my classic wrx about 4 year ago now and that was laggy on a 2L.On a 1.3 youd probably get pretty much fuck all till over 5k rpm.Td05 are old school journal bearing turbos, for quick spool you ideally want a BB.Saying that td05s are strong, can be pushed to 1.6bar plus and be reliable.Most VFs are BB and you arent ment to push them more than 1.4bar. Generally speaking.But then again ive seen scoobie lads at Crail wind the boost up on standard BB VFs to nearly 2bar for the odd run.Its just what youre willing to risk and what you want from the car Quote Link to post Share on other sites
starletezy Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 I had an 20g boost use to kick in after 5k so pretty laggy i would say an vf35 or greddy td05 16g Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 The greddy td05 use a different flange so thats something to watch out for Quote Link to post Share on other sites
epcashin Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 WEPR TD05 HYBRID .FRIEND MADE 390 WITH ONE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
starletezy Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 The greddy td05 use a different flange so thats something to watch out for Forgot to mention yes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vturbo Posted October 11, 2016 Author Share Posted October 11, 2016 ah well, i love a straight line. tbh im keen to try a big power setup, i will probably max out whatever set up i have, ehat kind of power is to be expected from a maxxed out 20g? or vf22? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
starletezy Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 (edited) heard of scoobys run 400hp on vf22's but don't know if that applies to the starlets Edited October 11, 2016 by starletezy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Jamie on here maxed his 22 out sub 350 i do believe.If you get a T3 flanged mani then theres all sorts of big turbo options, precision, borg warner, garrett, holset aswell.Pretty much all they'll be good for is lag lag lag... boooooost!Twin scroll is another option Quote Link to post Share on other sites
starletezy Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Twin scroll VF35 good for 380hp and wouldn't be laggy like all above Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gorganl2000 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 I had an 20g boost use to kick in after 5k so pretty laggy i would say an vf35 or greddy td05 16g i'd suggest vf35,,,stock td05...vf34...vf28 for what you mentioned power wise and as these are for the most part direct swaps...these turbos will get you 300/350bhp depending on the mods (as seen on the power learderboard)avoid the vf22,,,its the biggest laggiest sub turbo out there....even on a 2000cc sub its laggyTwin scroll VF35 good for 380hp and wouldn't be laggy like all abovedid this turbo come twin scroll? or is this a mod to the stock vf35? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TrisK Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 If you wanted 300hp a good specced billet wheel td04 should do it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vturbo Posted October 12, 2016 Author Share Posted October 12, 2016 If you wanted 300hp a good specced billet wheel td04 should do itcheers guys, to be honest for the sake of changing setups for an extra 20hp im thinking to aim for mid 300's just to get it out of my system lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
starletezy Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) Theres a vf22 hybrid with an vf34 housing for sale on here looks interesting http://www.ukstarletowners.com/topic/103533-vf22-turbo-stage-3/ Edited October 12, 2016 by starletezy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gorganl2000 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Theres a vf22 hybrid with an vf34 housing for sale on here looks interesting http://www.ukstarletowners.com/topic/103533-vf22-turbo-stage-3/ it says it uses a vf34 compressor housing.....If it still has the stock p20 exhaust housing which is the biggest one, it may be laggy the vf34 has a P18 exhaust housing....but is BB, so better spooling the vf35 has P15 exhaust housing...but is JB, so only spools a tad better than the vf34 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
starletezy Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 True what you are saying but will probably spool better than an TD05 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gorganl2000 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 True what you are saying but will probably spool better than an TD05 from what i've seen...the td05 will noticeably outspool the stock vf22 on a sub and actually, the td05 spool is fairly decent on a 5e tuned properly,,,very similar to vf35 and vf34 for an old turbo, i really cant fault the td05...it takes a pounding and survives Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 On a 16g though? 20g is lagatron. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gorganl2000 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 (edited) On a 16g though? 20g is lagatron. good point daniel g....when i refer to the td05, i strictly mean the stock subaru td05 16g the stock td05 has 0.48 ar exhaust housing, which by my research is slightly smaller than the vf35 P15 which equates to 0.51 ar...i think the vf34 P18 is around 0.64 and the vf22 P20 about 0.73....i would have to dig up my research to confirm...and i did a LOT of research on subaru turbos and combinations over the last 10 years lol by logic, the 18g/20g should be laggier than the 16g----unless maybe billet wheels and other turbo internal work is done Edited October 14, 2016 by gorganl2000 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GP82 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 The strong td05’s come from the older evo’s, the td05h’s, very robust turbo’s, but requires different manifold. A factory td05 16g is a great all round reliable turbo, best turbo for fast road street imo and will net 300hp. They do some real fancy one's now if you look. The Tomei turbo's are currently on sale which are superrrb imo. You can't go much wrong with a VF setup like a 24, 28, 29, 30, 34. The A/R size of the exhaust turbine housings on the Japanese turbos are labelled in metric (mm), so for example a P18 equals to 0.71 inch using conversion 18 divide 25.4 (mm to inch). I would not recommend a smaller turbine housing on a 4E or 5E then a P18. It’s not like you will not make 300hp from a P15 housing, but you will be restricting flow up top and will have to go conservative on the tune because of high egt's when you push boost pressure ratio to reach target hp and y'all know a 4E, 5E can easily spin to 7 - 8k rpm. Apologies I don’t talk garrett Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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