BAZ2CRAZY Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 As in the title, does the JDM n/a glanza ecu fit directly into the connectors on the ukdm loom? i.e. a direct swap?Mitch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BAZ2CRAZY Posted August 6, 2009 Author Share Posted August 6, 2009 Bumpy! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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cleanshavenllama Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 I need the answer to this aswell anyone know? free bump Quote Link to post Share on other sites
motion Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 i dont know how it is with the ukdm loom, but the JDM glanza's' ecu wont work plug an play with the german loom.do the ukdm 4e-fe have a knock sensor? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobSR Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 I *think* they plug straight in as there 2 plug... But it won't work/car won't run.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nanglebadger Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 mmmmm indeed, i believe rob is correct. i started to gather some of the parts for this a few years ago but abandoned ship.at the very least, would the JDM ECU not be expecting higher RON fuel?? which would make life miserable for a start!!!Phil. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cleanshavenllama Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 I checked my ECU this morning, its got two plugs.@Phil - yeh was thinking that myself about the RON, I'll just wap in some Shell V Power @RobSR - I have very little knowledge on cars, what would be the reason the car wouldnt run? Ive ordered the glanza S ecu along with the fuel injectors, would I need something else?Also with this setup of ecu and injectors would I need to upgrade my FPR or would the stock one I have be fine? (I have searched for this already but couldnt find a definitive answer) thanksAdam Quote Link to post Share on other sites
motion Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 I checked my ECU this morning, its got two plugs.@Phil - yeh was thinking that myself about the RON, I'll just wap in some Shell V Power @RobSR - I have very little knowledge on cars, what would be the reason the car wouldnt run? Ive ordered the glanza S ecu along with the fuel injectors, would I need something else?Also with this setup of ecu and injectors would I need to upgrade my FPR or would the stock one I have be fine? (I have searched for this already but couldnt find a definitive answer) thanksAdamyou need the fuel rail of the glanza's', because of the higher fuel pressure.do you have a knock sensor? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cleanshavenllama Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 I went and had a look. From what I can see I don't think I have a Knock Sensor, although i might have missed it. Do you have a knock sensor?? And does this have any effect using glanza 'S' ecu, fuel rail, injectors??Adam Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobSR Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Uk non turbos don't have knock sensors. As for why it doesn't work, it could be anything.. Knock sensor/ think Glanza s has a different idle control valve/ it has a completely different ignition setup/ immobiliser etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
motion Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 I went and had a look. From what I can see I don't think I have a Knock Sensor, although i might have missed it. Do you have a knock sensor?? And does this have any effect using glanza 'S' ecu, fuel rail, injectors??Adamyes! now i have one, i took one of the 4e-fte because the glanza's' ecu needs the signal.you also need a shielded wire, i took one like this:http://www.notebooksbilliger.de/image.php/...+cinch+kabel+2mand build out of it a knock sensor loom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cleanshavenllama Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 When plugging a JDM unit into a UKDM vehicle it'll start but not idle. Never really looked heavily into it as Alan's plans snowballed but I figured the ECU was missing a signal from somewhere. It would probably take us to look at the ECU pin-outs and see what's different.JayCould it be what motion is talking about, a signal from the knock sensor??Adam Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobSR Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 When plugging a JDM unit into a UKDM vehicle it'll start but not idle. Never really looked heavily into it as Alan's plans snowballed but I figured the ECU was missing a signal from somewhere. It would probably take us to look at the ECU pin-outs and see what's different.Jayyea that's what I meant was just been lazy lol. It's the same with the corolla one aswell ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
200sx-Starlet-Jay Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Jap NA redlines higher as well, the uk engine would not handle it because of the different valve springs. you would get bounce.... or so im told somthing i looked into. to be honest guys, mite just be easier putting a 5efe in, with a few other mods and get similar power that waywe know that can be done, and its not overly expensive. can be done on a tight budget. need a slight idea what ure doing though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rmsnoel Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 If you had opened up the ecu's you would see that the pinouts are different, or rather the same but in different positions, there are only 6 extra wires for the jdm glanza s into a uk 4efe.Im making a field extension harness to move the wires about for testing. Really to fit a glanza s ecu into a uk 4efe all you need is fte turbo inlet manifold with sensors and the knock sensor as they are same as glanza S. The different wires are just for the cold idle thing so in theory it should work without it. I'll post the pinouts and that later. Mines not fitted ive only started on the harness, thanks to terrx on tgtt for the how to open up the loom plug thread. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rmsnoel Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 This is different to my pinouts on the uk4efe, but use this template to make to pinout lists, one for your 4efe and one for your jdm ecu. Then go to the loom plugs and on the bottom side pop open the lock plate 1mm or so. Then using a stiff sewing needle or similar, push up the plastic retainers and pull out the pins; one at a time. Then reinsert them to match the jdm ecu. You'll be missing a few so these are where you need to add the knock sensor and any other missing sensor wires. If this sounds like alot of work you really shouldnt be messing with electrics or engines, stick to spoilers and bodykits please. DO NOT just plug in a new ecu to see does it work without first checking the pinouts inside.4E-FE UK 75BHP ECU pinout Pin Name Wire color Explanation Connector 1 1 RSC Gray Rotary Solenoid Close - Cold Idle Speed Control 2 NSW Red Neutral Starter Switch 3 THW Green-Black Water Temparature Signal 4 PIM LightGreen Pressure Intake Manifold 5 THA LightGreen-Black Intake Air Temparature 6 IGT Black-White Ignition Timing 7 8 IGF Yellow Ignition Feedback from the ignitor coil 9 NE- Blue Part of the IIA (Intergrated Ignition Assembly) 10 OX White Oxygen Sensor (Lambda Sensor) 11 STA Red(M/T) or Red-White(A/T) Engine Cranking Signal (Starter Switch) 12 #10 Green Injector Pulse 1 & 3 13 E01 White-Black Computer Ground 14 RSO Black-Red Rotary Solenoid - Cold Idle Speed Control 15 HT Pink-Blue Heated Oxygen Sensor 16 E2 Brown-White Sensor Ground 17 VTA18 VCC LightGreen-Red Throttle Position Sensor (pin 1) 19 20 21 NE + Green RPM Signal 22 NE - ~ ~ 23 ~ Vacuum Switching Valve 24 E1 Brown Computer Ground 25 #20 Yellow Injector Pulse 2 & 4 26 ~ ~ ~ Connector 2 1 ~ ~ ~ 2 BATT White-Green Switched Battery Power (+12V) (EFI Main Relay) 3 in my opinion4 FC Green-Red Circuit Opening Relay (Fuel Cut) 5 ELS Green Electrical Load Signal System Taillight Relay 6 7 TE2 White-Blue Check Connector 8 TE1 Gray Check Connector (Diagnostics) 9 +B Black-Yellow Switched Battery Power (12V) 10 W Green-White Warning Light 11 12 AC1 Pink A/C Switch Signal System (12V to Aircon Computer) 13 SPD Violet Speed Signal 14 ACT Black-White A/C Cut Control System 15 IMI 16 VF Green-Yellow Check Connector Outputs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rmsnoel Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 4E-FE GLANZA S ECU pinout Pin Name Wire color Explanation Connector 1 1 RSC Gray Rotary Solenoid Close - Cold Idle Speed Control #2 TE1 3 THW Green-Black Water Temparature Signal 4 PIM LightGreen Pressure Intake Manifold 5 THA LightGreen-Black Intake Air Temparature 6 IGT Black-White Ignition Timing #7 IGF#8 FAN9 NE- Blue Part of the IIA (Intergrated Ignition Assembly) 10 OX White Oxygen Sensor (Lambda Sensor) 11 STA Red(M/T) or Red-White(A/T) Engine Cranking Signal (Starter Switch) 12 #10 Green Injector Pulse 1 & 3 13 E01 White-Black Computer Ground 14 RSO Black-Red Rotary Solenoid - Cold Idle Speed Control #15 TE216 E2 Brown-White Sensor Ground 17 VTA18 VCC LightGreen-Red Throttle Position Sensor (pin 1) #19 NC #20 CF21 NE Green RPM Signal #22 IPV#23 KNK 24 E1 Brown Computer Ground 25 #20 Yellow Injector Pulse 2 & 4 #26 HT Connector 2 #1 SEL --------???????????????? 2 BATT White-Green Switched Battery Power (+12V) (EFI Main Relay) #3 CCO Unknown Check Connector Outputs 4 FC Green-Red Circuit Opening Relay (Fuel Cut) #5 ELS3#6 ELS2#7 ELS4#8 NSW9 +B Black-Yellow Switched Battery Power (12V) 10 W Green-White Warning Light 11 EGW Unknown Catalytic Converter Temparature Warning Light (Combination Meter) 12 AC1 Pink A/C Switch Signal System (12V to Aircon Computer) 13 SPD Violet Speed Signal 14 ACT Black-White A/C Cut Control System #15 ELS1 Unknown Electrical Load Signal System 16 VF Green-Yellow Check Connector OutputstHE CONNECTORS MARKED WITH '#' ARE THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN UK 4EFE AND JDM GLANZA S Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rmsnoel Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Id like to see the pinouts for the early ep80 ep85 shape 100ps ecu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rmsnoel Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Ok Ive identified most of the pinouts but I need help with these few. What do these abbrevations stand forEGWSELNCCFIPVMost of the differences in pinouts seem to be the diagnostic ports connectors, meaning the car should run without them, I'll swap round the distributor and igination pins tomorrow and try her out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobSR Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I'll try and rememebr to post em up when I get home.. think I've got them all written down somewhere ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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