Rick Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Hi guys, I had the Evo mot'd a couple of weeks ago. Bear in mind I'm running a full 3" turbo back exhaust with no cat on a 1998 model and it flew through the emissions test. The reason for this is that as there is no direct uk counterpart, the emissions test has to be a non cat test.Although this would only benefit the guys who own imports, it could well get you out of a hole when it comes to mot time. Plus it means that anybody with a Starlet turbo can go full decat without having to worry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Its always good to know but some MOT stations can be twats about it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lee_EP82 Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Yep mate they put mine through a none cat test as all they could compare it to was either ep91 uk spec or an ep80 or 81 cant remember. So registered for none cat test and passed peice of cake Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rick Posted August 12, 2009 Author Share Posted August 12, 2009 All mot testers have to have a current copy of the rule book. Tell them to get the rule book out. My mot tester did and it clearly states in there that if the exact model of the vehicle is not listed on the system the a non cat test has to be performed for emissions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rick Posted August 12, 2009 Author Share Posted August 12, 2009 Yep mate they put mine through a none cat test as all they could compare it to was either ep91 uk spec or an ep80 or 81 cant remember. So registered for none cat test and passed peice of cake Trust me, if the Evo can pass this test then anything can lol!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jason_l Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Looked into this some time ago. As im using a GT engine in my kitcar and there is no data on the register then i don't need a CAT. Mine should sound quite nice with no cat and an exhaust that is only 300mm long Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scot-ish Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 heard this before, this is why my cat will be gutted this week lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DavidAshton Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Does this not apply anymore? Had my MOT this week and they were certain I had to have a CAT even though I said there is no UK model. In the end I had to put the CAT on and they did the test to those limits on the flow chart. According to the flow chart you should have had a CAT test, i think you just got lucky. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StarletRick Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 just needs to pass the generic idle test. which is set HIGH. it only needs finer testing if there is the specs on the vosa machine, which there isnt. my 200 just pissed an MOT emission test. that has full 3 inch turbo back jobby.my old starlet even passed it, and that was... quite rediculous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DavidAshton Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Still cant see how you can get passed it acording to that chart? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jason_l Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Does this not apply anymore? Had my MOT this week and they were certain I had to have a CAT even though I said there is no UK model. In the end I had to put the CAT on and they did the test to those limits on the flow chart. According to the flow chart you should have had a CAT test, i think you just got lucky.Personally i think they are wrong!!!! If you go through the chart you have posted up then it comes out as a 'non CAT test' which has the higher limits on so cat not needed. For any year gt/glanza the flow chart you have shown means that you don't need a CAT!!!Jason Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B19YUL Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 i ran my glanza without a cat for two years and passed both mot's no bother?. the 2nd time the garage questioned it and i told him as its an import no cat is required and it passed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DavidAshton Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 If you follow that chart for a 96 V it comes to cat test using limits on the left. Its only non cat for car used between 1st Aug 94 and 31 July 95, well thats how i read it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jason_l Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 If you follow that chart for a 96 V it comes to cat test using limits on the left. Its only non cat for car used between 1st Aug 94 and 31 July 95, well thats how i read it.Sorry mate, i see it now. I think you are right, if its after 95 then it goes to section 8, so you need a CAT. Might be able to blag it at a few places???Luckily mine is a 94 so i can still blag the system Quote Link to post Share on other sites
molovin Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Nope sorry mate i have doone alot of research into this as mine failed not long ago. Mine imported and i even spoke with Vosa o na few occasion. conclusion is any car (Glanza) Has to be under 0.35 on c02. thats a figure for all cars as a standard form. usualy each car has a specifed digit to be under but if one isnt on the system the chart says has to be under .35. by the way the Galnza are on the new Vosa eddtion beign sent to all MOT centres :-D i got the letter sittign in front of me lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy77 Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 diffrent topic but my bros colt faild his m.o.t because his exhuast was to loud but the day before i had mine done same garage same bloke and my exhaust is way louder and mine passed. and his emissions were perfect. he must of been having a funny 5 mins wat a tw@ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 sumhow managed to get my 4age'd ep91 (uk) thru with no cat maybe they forgot lol. did have a grumble about having a powersteering rack with no powersteering though! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 OK question for guys with front exits how do they fair when it comes to MOT time? Pretty sure I will be running a front exit.I hate MOT's they always seem to be funny with me even on the slightest thing must be because its modified Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve GT Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 it doesnt matter if its front or back exitif you have a import theres no uk equivalent so they have to do a basic emissions test otherwise known as a pre-cat testaslong as its not severely pissing fuel out in mass numbers its very very unlikely you can fail a pre-cat test Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve GT Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 haha very hard to find around here though lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
molovin Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 GLANZA V IS NOW ON THE VOSA DATA BASE. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raoul Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 GT's will get away with a non CAT test. Glanza's have to pass the default emissions test. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StarletRick Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 conclusion is any car (Glanza) Has to be under 0.35 on c02. thats a figure for all cars as a standard form.that is true. but that is rediculously high. if your car is pumping that out, the MOT is the last of your problems! if my old starlet passed its MOT, any starlet can pass. GLANZA V IS NOW ON THE VOSA DATA BASE.i doubt that; but even if it is, it wont have any specifics. the japs dont do CO2 tests (not when the Vs were flying about anyway), so there would be nothing to run it against. VOSA use manufacturers specifications to gauge the tolerances on specific cars. there are none for starlets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve GT Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 i can confirm I've spoke to an MOT tester recently and any import starlet wether gt or glanza V is exempt from emissions test due to no UK exuivalent on the VOSA database hence a basic/pre cat emissions test to be carried outin other words if you have an import your car will pass an emissions test unless your car is so badly overfuelling its shooting out 10 foot flames on idle lmfao Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jason_l Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 in other words if you have an import your car will pass an emissions test unless your car is so badly overfuelling its shooting out 10 foot flames on idle lmfaoThat will be me then Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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