Glanza S Injectors Colour

[chanelle1234]

Hey guys

Im thinking of getting a glanza s ecu, injectors and fuel rail for my n/a, just wanted to know if anyone can tell me the part number or colour of the injectors.

cheers

chanelle x

[StarletRick]

they are a funny off green/turquoise colour...

heres a pic of some i randomly had a while back. although, in my opinion you wont need them. the stock NA ones are fine with a rrfpr if youre after some more fuelz. youll get better gains spending your money elsewhere. upping the fuel should be a way down the list.

[RobSR]

I think there actually smaller than the standard uk ones but run a higher pressure to flow more. So basically stay with your standard ones and get an adjustable fpr to add in more fuel. Not many people bother on the na but with and inlet mani + exhaust and the fuelling setup you may see a nice little gain..

[StarletRick]

size is completely irrelivant when it comes to injectors?

1600cc ones are the same size as 295cc's. it makes no difference at all.

i cant remember exactly, but the S injectors are something like 30cc more than stock UK ones.

[RobSR]

What I meant is I don't think the Glanza s ones are a higher cc than the uk ones. The only reason they add more fuel than the uk ones is that they run higher fuel pressure as the reg is defo different on the Glanza s rail.

Think the only way to tell for sure is to get uk ones and Glanza s ones flow tested

uk's are 195cc and the corolla ones (yellow) are 225cc so that may be a better option

[RobSR]

so at stock na fuel pressure I can't see them flowing much more...or even, less infact. (richs ran lean when he fitted his at stock

pressure)

[Starlet__SR]

You'll find that running different injectors will make barely an difference without a remap, it's your duty cycles that govern the amount of fuel into the engine, the pressure only determines how well the fuel is atomized, the more pressure equals less flow.

Damien

[StarletRick]

i love how misinformed people are ^^

chanelle... if youre going to run a glanza s ECU and run the S injectors at their proper pressure then they will be fine.

[chanelle1234]

i was planning to get a set of s injectors and the ecu aswel as a rrfpr.

hopefully give me a nice gain

[StarletRick]

have you got a proper exhaust (including mani) on it yet chanelle?

i wouldnt bother with more fuel until youve got the engine breathing properly

[chanelle1234]

i have a trd backbox with a pipecraft centre section, rolla mani and a induction kit, so yea hopefully breathing ok

[StarletRick]

id get a better manifold first

can get em fairly cheap, talk to mikeyjay. hes up on NA manis.

i really need you on msn for pies to be honest.

[RobSR]

i love how misinformed people are ^^

is what ive said totally wrong lol? or is that starlet sr...im not totally clued up on the fuelling sides of things lol

[Starlet__SR]

i love how misinformed people are ^^

chanelle... if youre going to run a glanza s ECU and run the S injectors at their proper pressure then they will be fine.

Do enlighten me oh wise one?

[Starlet__SR]

Using the glanza s injectors will give a benefit if used with the ECU, as it runs different duty cycles comapred the a uk spec ecu.

Damien

[StarletRick]

the pressure only determines how well the fuel is atomized, the more pressure equals less flow.

that is pap.

You're welcome ^^;

[Starlet__SR]

that is pap.

You're welcome ^^;

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Be more specific? I'm curious to know:)

Or are you just one of these pumped up idiots who thinks he knows it all because he sells a few bits for a car??

[RobSR]

rick knows what he's on about

If you increase the fuel pressure, the cars going to run richer

[StarletRick]

haha, yeah that's me down to a tee mate ^^; i dun know nuffin.

but if you really want me to explain, basically that whole sentence is rubbish, "more pressure equals less flow" etc.

if you have a hole, regardless of size, that opens for a set amount of time to allow whatever is behind it to flow through (fuel in this instance), it will allow more through it if the pressure that is pushing it is higher.

this will obviously only happen upto a point where the flow stops being the limiting factor (i.e. the flow is now limited by the size of the hole, and not the pressure). At the point where the pressure outweighs the flow, it will find somewhere else in the system to releve that pressure, so on and so forth. this is where you'd be buying larger flowing injectors.

or am i wrong?

now back to helping chanelle.....

as i was saying, before you start buggering about with the fueling, id get that 4e a proper exhaust, then id get it a bit more revvy. you only really need to upgrade the injectors when the ones you have are limiting you. and at the mo the ones you have are fine for the job. youll have alot of fun wwith a lightweight flywheel come to think of it.

[Starlet__SR]

haha, yeah that's me down to a tee mate ^^; i dun know nuffin.

but if you really want me to explain, basically that whole sentence is rubbish, "more pressure equals less flow" etc.

if you have a hole, regardless of size, that opens for a set amount of time to allow whatever is behind it to flow through (fuel in this instance), it will allow more through it if the pressure that is pushing it is higher.

this will obviously only happen upto a point where the flow stops being the limiting factor (i.e. the flow is now limited by the size of the hole, and not the pressure). At the point where the pressure outweighs the flow, it will find somewhere else in the system to releve that pressure, so on and so forth. this is where you'd be buying larger flowing injectors.

or am i wrong?

now back to helping chanelle.....

as i was saying, before you start buggering about with the fueling, id get that 4e a proper exhaust, then id get it a bit more revvy. you only really need to upgrade the injectors when the ones you have are limiting you. and at the mo the ones you have are fine for the job. youll have alot of fun wwith a lightweight flywheel come to think of it.

I can sit and talk to you about flow/pressure all day long, one of my main job roles is pump testing, I could start explaining about flow curves etc, give you physical representations of what happens when you increase pressure or flow but you'd never understand:)

[StarletRick]

*sigh*

ok mate, increasing the pressure means there is less fuel delivered per cycle. you used some complex words there mate, so i give up, you must be right.

(young lad with an apprenticeship at an engineering firm or something yes? amirite?)

[Starlet__SR]

*sigh*

ok mate, increasing the pressure means there is less fuel delivered per cycle. you used some complex words there mate, so i give up, you must be right.

(young lad with an apprenticeship at an engineering firm or something yes? amirite?)

Lol:) you make me laugh:) oh well, suppose there's got to be atleast one joker on here, may aswell be you!

And no, I finished my apprenticeship:) But yeah, work for one of the worlds biggest pump manufacturers, do hours upon hours of testing, got some of the best guys working beside me, i'd argue they know more about flow/pressure than some trader:)

[StarletRick]

im not a trader actually mate, just a normal member ^^

i know where ill be going when i need to purchase my low pressure, high flowing pumps now

i commend you for your knowledge and experience in this field. i feel humbled.

[RobSR]

I still can't see how you think if you raise fuel pressure you get less flow which means the engine is going to run leaner... Which implies you would lower the fuel pressure on your car to make it run richer...errrr no!

Hence why when everyone fits hks fcds they raise the fuel pressure to add in more fuel.

[Starlet__SR]

im not a trader actually mate, just a normal member ^^

i know where ill be going when i need to purchase my low pressure, high flowing pumps now

i commend you for your knowledge and experience in this field. i feel humbled.

Oh you name it. We can supply it:)

And thank you dear sir for the credit, much appreciated:)