birdmandan Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 So tonight at my local car club meet, a few of us went for a nice little blast down a dual carriage way and upon return my friend said a lot of smoke was coming out of my exhaust when it was pulling. so i immediatly became worried and notified another member of the club. anyway cut a long story short, aswell as the smoke on acceleration, if the car is left just idling, after about 10 minutes the floor beneath the exhaust has been painted Black in an oily substance, and also i held my hand underneath exhaust and it appeared to be spitting out a Brown/Black oily substance and a fiar amount of it,I was wondering if somebody could help me out with this problem. And i have also searched and read thorugh all the smoking topics created but non of them seem to answer me. why is it spitting oil out? :/Also last time i changed the oil in my Glanza i somehow managed to put too much oil in so the engine was overfilled. and i didnt get round to letting some of the oil out. could this be a cause?? I really am confused. my friend instantly said my turbo is fecked? Thanks in advance for any Replies!Dan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lukEp Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 not 100% but sounds like your oil feed to turbo has snapped/cracked get it checked asap and if it was mine i wouldnt run it as you'll be loosing oil pressure thats how markoos ended up needing a new engine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Evans Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 your Turbo has gone booooooooooom, by the sounds of things mate, check the oil feed, if its ok, wiggle the shaft in the turbo to see if theres alot of movement and to see if theres oil coming out of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
birdmandan Posted April 22, 2010 Author Share Posted April 22, 2010 Eek that doesnt sound good at all is there anyway i can check the things you mentioned? im just starting to do all this DIY stuff myself soo still learning where all bits and bobs are Ect. how can i check oil pressure? and would the oil feed coming off mean there is no oil going through the turbo meaning no lubrication?? also another Thing that came to my attention was a very high pitched whistling sort of noise coming from the oil breather pipe (not sure on name for it)Dan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
birdmandan Posted April 22, 2010 Author Share Posted April 22, 2010 your Turbo has gone booooooooooom, by the sounds of things mate, check the oil feed, if its ok, wiggle the shaft in the turbo to see if theres alot of movement and to see if theres oil coming out of it.Would it still boost and hold boost if this was the case? also the car is feeling a little down on power.. Also this sounds like nothing major does it to anybody? just turbo problems? I am dreading piston rings or something like that.. however i hope this isnt the case Dan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DavidAshton Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 You sure the black oily stuff on idle is not just condensation mixing with carbon deposits in the backbox? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
birdmandan Posted April 22, 2010 Author Share Posted April 22, 2010 nah im pretty sure its not, its painting the floor black.. its never done this before also any idea on the whistling oil breather pipe??Thanks for help guys so far! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lukEp Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 if you look at the oil filter, its attached to a re-location adapter which is were the oil feed comes from. Its attached with a big banjo bolt loosten that and give the pipe a wiggle to see if it moves if it does as its a solid pipe is snapped Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Evans Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 first thing is to look under the car at the turbo, and check the oil feed pipe, if thats ok, the undo the intake pipe from the turbo (black plastic pipe) if theres alot of oil in there, then it has gone, if not stick your fingers in the turbo ( be carefull, blades are sharp) and wiggle the shaft to se if theres alot of movement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lukEp Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 just one question exhaust at the rear of the car or in the engine bay? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Evans Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 it wont be piston rings, unless theres alot of oil coming out of the top of the rocker cover breather pipe Quote Link to post Share on other sites
birdmandan Posted April 22, 2010 Author Share Posted April 22, 2010 OOOO sounds like scary stuff lol i have never played with my turbo before. whats the best way to get at it?? can i just get to the oil feed and turbo from beneath the car or does anything have to be removed?? also can i run a hybrid as a direct replacement or would i need all supporting mods?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
birdmandan Posted April 22, 2010 Author Share Posted April 22, 2010 By a lot of oil you mean Absolutely loads covering the rocker or just a spread around the oil breather?@Luke: The exhaust exit at the rear of the car matey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lukEp Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 though the dripping was from the front it wont be the feed pipe then..... as dan said check for play in the turbo shaft and for large amounts of oil in the intercooler.... there will alway be a little oil in there anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
birdmandan Posted April 22, 2010 Author Share Posted April 22, 2010 Ok so tommorow i should check for shaft play? oil in the intercooler and joining pipes? also the turbo air intake pip thingy i should check for oil in therE? Could putting to much oil in cause any problems?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Evans Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 there will be oil sprayed all over the bay if it was piston rings mate, happened to mine and im re-building mine now.Just take off he top mounted intercooler and pipe connecting to the turbo, and its easier for you to get at then.if you were closer id come give you a hand mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Evans Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 aslong as you havent gone over the dipstick reccomendation mark then you should be fine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lukEp Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 more oil can cause a bend snap rod/crank as you cant compress oil so something will give when you say to much how much was it over the full mark on the dip stick? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
birdmandan Posted April 22, 2010 Author Share Posted April 22, 2010 Thats very kind of you matey kinda wish i lived closer to the middle of the country sometimes, i get no help in hull from starlet lads lol it sucks a lot!! and yeah i will attempt to get all that off tommorow then and check all for oil weather dependant!Also i am sorry to here about your piston rings going mate!! Have you any ideas on the whistling oil breather pipe thingy? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Evans Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 which one do you mean mate? ontop of the rocker cover on the left? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
birdmandan Posted April 22, 2010 Author Share Posted April 22, 2010 I would say it was a good 15cm over the full mark when i checked earlier.. IS this a significant amount to overfill by? To fix this i could just remove the bolt to drain a little out? be messy but would sort it yes?Dan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
birdmandan Posted April 22, 2010 Author Share Posted April 22, 2010 which one do you mean mate? ontop of the rocker cover on the left?Yes my friend thats the once i mean, its like a little piece of metal piper about 10mm diameter that sticks up from the rocker about an inch i think its the oil breather pipe? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lukEp Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 the engine only holds 2.5lt of oil mate how much did you put in? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Evans Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 also, when my piston rings went, it was also the piston aswell, luckily for me it didnt explode inside the block Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Evans Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 have you got anything on yours at all?? like a breather filter or a pipe on it to the dumpvalve? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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