sdutton007 Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 hi alli'd like to get the power up on my ep82 to around 160+ and i've got around a grand to play with. i've looked around on the site but still am not sure what to do exactly...firstly, i've heard that the starlet comes with a washer in the manifold and around the fuel filter which can be removed for more power - is this true?also i am thinking of getting a manifold (if i cant derestrict the standard one) & full straight-thru exhaust from the turbo back, followed by a remap (or custom ecu or piggyback chip), but would i be better off with any of the following:fast-road camsboost controlleruprated actuatorhks fuel cut defenceruprated fuel pumpuprated fuel railuprated injectorsuprated spark plugscheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 is your car totaly standard yea?stage one mods would get you close to that figure,they would consist of a custom exhaustnew axhaust manifold as the standarc one is very restrictive and a hks actuater set to just before fual cut at about 12 psi( a safe guard within the ecu thats really anoying)check the heavy restriction in manifold number 3iliminating this will give you a nice dolop of powerwith these mods you should be hitting close to if not 160bhp., will be enuf power to keep you bangin.if you ad an emanage to the mix after that your looking at 180 +hope that was of some help mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sdutton007 Posted January 8, 2007 Author Share Posted January 8, 2007 is your car totaly standard yea?stage one mods would get you close to that figure,they would consist of a custom exhaustnew axhaust manifold as the standarc one is very restrictive and a hks actuater set to just before fual cut at about 12 psi( a safe guard within the ecu thats really anoying)check the heavy restriction in manifold number 3iliminating this will give you a nice dolop of powerwith these mods you should be hitting close to if not 160bhp., will be enuf power to keep you bangin.if you ad an emanage to the mix after that your looking at 180 +hope that was of some help matecheers matecars standard except for a hks mushroom airfilter, a blitz BOV and a blitz turbo timer - although i think it's been derestricted because i did this:even though it should be limited to 112mph?and dave is selling these manifolds on ebay - do you think i should get that?ive just had a look on the fensport site and there is a 'Uprated Actuator - complete kit' for £75+vat - that a reasonable price?they also have a HKS Fuel Cut Defencer for £95 - should i get that so I can turn the boost higher, or just wait until i can afford a remap/custom ecu?lastly, what is a 'emanage' exactly?sorry for my lack of knowledge and cheers for the help Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 my own personal preference would be to get a miled steel manifold from the likes of road runner, the problem with stainless maniolds is they can and do crack, with milled it might not look as nice but they wont crackthe uprated actuater is right on the money there, thats what they go for,the hks fcd is a no no to me, i think its mega crude and fual cut is there for a reason, 12 psi is a nice big leap from the standard ten,to do this you will need a boost gauge to monitor then its just a case of turning the actuater up to that pointam i making sense,and e-mnanage or full name greddy emanage is a fual computer,it elminates fual cut and supplies more fual to the engine, the emanage blue is about £300 and does everything you could ever want. that hard part is tuning it, some people want silly moneyim lucky in the fact that up here there is a guy that only charges 100 notes for fitting and mapping on the move which reprisents a god sendhopefullly that was of some useany questions just ask Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paul w Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Theres no point making your car faster if it's standard,sort the handling and stopping first! Then sort the fueling,exhaust,manifold,actuator for more power and turn up the boost to a sensible level as enzo has said. If you just go straight for power you'll be in the ditch pretty quickly or have a nicely toasted set of piston rings causing mucho smoke! Does your car travel in mph or kph? if it's still reading kph then it's not derestricted.Do you have the converter fitted? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ecksjay Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 blitz ecu.boost controller.1bar.job done. hehehealso, killer deja-vu right there.... :/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paul w Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Yeah but you knew what your blitz ecu was mapped for! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ecksjay Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Managed to find out what my power-fc is mapped for too, which should be fun to compare it against Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paul w Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 GIT! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ecksjay Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 GIT!mwahahahaha should have it by tatsu, i'll bring em both along. well, the blitz is in the car, but you can just bout make the cunt out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NightSpirit Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 mods I'd say...Blitz/Apex-i filterBlitz decat and nur spec exhaustAVC-R or similar to up the boost and future proof you for further boost mods.Then I'd go front mount cooler, bigger injectors, fuel pump (from a supra) and power FC.Then I'd fit lightweight flywheel and if it's for track use an lsd at the same time (as a trd clutch)Finishing with some mild hks cams and maybe a turbo Then when it blows, rebuild the engine. lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sdutton007 Posted January 9, 2007 Author Share Posted January 9, 2007 Theres no point making your car faster if it's standard,sort the handling and stopping first! Then sort the fueling,exhaust,manifold,actuator for more power and turn up the boost to a sensible level as enzo has said. If you just go straight for power you'll be in the ditch pretty quickly or have a nicely toasted set of piston rings causing mucho smoke! Does your car travel in mph or kph? if it's still reading kph then it's not derestricted.Do you have the converter fitted?the handling is pretty good - its on a set of KYB coilovers, and i've ordered EBC discs and pads to make it stop.It was converted to MPH when it was imported into the country a couple of months ago.blitz ecu.boost controller.1bar.job done. hehehealso, killer deja-vu right there.... :/Where can I get a blitz ecu? (i cant find any on the blitz website) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 problem with these plug and play ecus's is that you canot tel what they are mapped for by th previous owner, plus they ususaly cost about 500 ggsblitz, mines, jam and a few otheres are all the same, very desirable another cheaper fual computer which does the job ok is the safc,that along with an uprated fual pump will also do the job for tuning Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NightSpirit Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 There are a few Blitz Access ECU on the Yahoo auctions in Japan...I can help you get one no problem BUT, I wouldn't. Personally, I think it's just an uprgade to remove fuel cut etc and up the boost a bit, can't be tuned (certainly not on the MR2 anyway). I'd go for a Power FC which is around 550 quid or use the E-Manage or something like that, alteast then you can adjust the fueling to a certain degree to allow for future modsYou beat me to it Enzo!Blitz is cheaper than that though...but I still wouldn't bother...false economy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 lol sound,happy birthday for the otherday ye old codger,must suck havin your birthday soo close to the crimbo season-less prezzys n all that or do you still get prezzys bein so ancient haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NightSpirit Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 thanks I'd forgotten how old I was when someone asked me..and I'm sure I've shrunk. My wife says I'm going grey too (that's her fault...women)When you get older presents get more expensive, until about 50 then you get socks. This year santa brought me an arcade cabinet and street fighter 2 rainbow (none of this wii bollocks) then my mate for my birthday bought me the Neo Geo MVS slot for it and King of the Fighters 98 Keepin it oldskool. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ecksjay Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 them ecu's are fine when you know what they're mapped for, and with something simple like a basic rrfpr or old school apexi afc (£30 at most) you can pump up the fuelling to run even a large turbo setup (say, k24/k26/td04 etc).it just depends how much you get it all for in the first place really. they're awesome for what they are, considering what little you have to do (i.e plug and play).power fc's are obv the way forward, hence why i now have one, although, as they're discontinued, they're gonna start going silly prices, the last ep82 one i saw sell on the auctions went for STUPID money. its the same as the ep91 model, but with the ep82 they use a harness, to enable the unit to fit (but the unit itself is identical to the ep91 model). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SiCaln Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 I've never seen blitz ecus come up the yahoo auctions! Jam yes but nowt else Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NightSpirit Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Power FCs used from Japan are about 550 quid at present...which is good for what you get to do But as Ecksjay said, same with the MR2 Power FC, which is also discontinued, the prices will rise. The EP82 Power FC is modified by AP Engineering and is actually for the MR2 with the conversion harness. I think though that the fueling control for the injectors is modified so 4 goes into 2, meaning you can't control the injector duty etc for each cylinder, just 2 at a time.There's a Blitz on there now Si Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SiCaln Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 ah i know y, i look for ep91 not ep82 lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ecksjay Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 ep91 and 82 are both modified MR2 ecu's by A.P Engineering mate, hence why as the MR2 model is discontinued, so is the ep82/91 models.ye the one that went for silly money was a scuffed/scratched/damaged ep82 model, with the conversion harness. mine arrived yesterday apparently but i've yet to claim it from a neighbour, need to source a commander too but i'll do that at a later date. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NightSpirit Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 I just used the commander from my MR2 It's great being able to pilfer all the best bits from another car before you sell it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest daveburwash Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 You would be much better off with a closed loop system, in my opinion the PFC is a bit naff Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ecksjay Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 You would be much better off with a closed loop system, in my opinion the PFC is a bit nafffor a big setup, yes, but it does the job perfectly for like 300bhp and below, but i agree that for big setups (say, td06 etc) you'll want smoething a little more capable. HKS F-Con Pro I've etc.Also, nightspirit, yes i've had my eye out for one and can get one for japan for the £120 mark but i dont mind having a used/marked one as i dont mind so much, but unfortunately there dont seem to be many about.feel free to give me yours though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sdutton007 Posted January 16, 2007 Author Share Posted January 16, 2007 my own personal preference would be to get a miled steel manifold from the likes of road runner, the problem with stainless maniolds is they can and do crack, with milled it might not look as nice but they wont crackI cant find road runner on the forum or ebay....... how can i contact him and how much should i be lookin 2 pay? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.